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Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

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Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#11
Companies are often times weasels. They will try to figure out your current salary and offer some small increase.

In my experience you need to have leverage before negotiating, so I remain “negotiable” and never tell my current salary until an offer is on the table. Once they want you comp can be more easily negotiated.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

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post #11

Companies are often times weasels. They will try to figure out your current salary and offer some small increase. In my experience you need to have leverage before negotiating, so I remain “negotiable” and never tell my current salary until an offer is on the table. Once they want you comp can be more easily negotiated.

People should know that even if you never tell them your current salary, they can often just look it up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29834753

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#13
I work at a place where we have trouble finding candidates. It's hard to find a good candidate, but sometimes we find someone we really like but they don't have a lot of experience, and sometimes we find someone we really like and they're very experienced. Both can come trough the same job opening, but we'll offer them different salaries for obvious reasons. Their "level" inside the company will be different once they join.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#14
post #8

I'm not allowed to. I've made the arguments for, and HR controls the actual job listings, and they won't put salary in the JDs. I've been trying for two years to make this happen. Reasons I've heard -- and again, this is not me, this is what I'm told -- include * we can't as a matter of company policy, which can't be changed * we offer great benefits (true, they're the best I've ever had) and so it's not fair to us t…

Is there anything stopping you from just telling the range to the candidate the first time you talk to them?

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#15
post #11

Companies are often times weasels. They will try to figure out your current salary and offer some small increase. In my experience you need to have leverage before negotiating, so I remain “negotiable” and never tell my current salary until an offer is on the table. Once they want you comp can be more easily negotiated.

People should know that even if you never tell them your current salary, they can often just look it up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29834753

That’s good to know. However, if someone wants to recruit me, they will need to offer significantly more than my current gig. Otherwise, I will simply not accept the offer.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#16
post #4

I currently post ranges because we're now large enough. But when we were smaller, I wouldn't include ranges because our job posts didn't filter by seniority, and at least part of the comp was the potential for a healthy options grant. So the effective cash comp range was so large as to be meaningless on a single job post. "$0 to $1m DOE" (for example) doesn't help anyone make any decisions and is so distracting that…

As a counterpoint to "everyone's very firm minimum acceptable comp is the top of your published range", I find that most jobs with a published salary range seem to pay just low enough for me to not want to go through the trouble of applying.

It certainly does act as a filter. My point was more, this was much less of a thing when ranges weren't published. Many applicants had firm requirements across all the way across the spectrum. Published rates end up grouping towards top of published ranges for each role. Could be caused by something else of course, this isn't necessarily commentary on cause/effect, but it's my observation.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#17

Most of the times it’s a company policy. As a hiring manager i never knew the salary of the open positions i was filling, only hr snd c-levels did. Since my last job, asking the salary range is my first question in recruiter dms and generic emails. My current company was super open to reveal salary range on the first email, and i really appreciated it and eventually accepted the offer. People should demand transparre…

It's company policy because it's good for the company.

It's company policy because it lets them take advantage of candidates.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#18
post #4

I currently post ranges because we're now large enough. But when we were smaller, I wouldn't include ranges because our job posts didn't filter by seniority, and at least part of the comp was the potential for a healthy options grant. So the effective cash comp range was so large as to be meaningless on a single job post. "$0 to $1m DOE" (for example) doesn't help anyone make any decisions and is so distracting that…

> $0 to $1m DOE... Actually, that does help me. At least I know that for the right candidate, with the right skills and fit, we can talk. That means I am not wasting my time because I am not talking to a place that has an inflexible top dollar range controlled by someone other than the hiring manager that will become a brick wall if we hit that point. I don't mind an interview process where I need to prove my worth t…

This is fairly true for most businesses already, though - at least in tech. It's just a question of how they value your skills that might not be in alignment. Some companies will value what you bring to the table more than others, just because of what their needs are. Or they just can't match pay. We regularly lose people to FAANG because we just can't comp the same, and that's been true for every startup I've hired for ever.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#19
post #8

I'm not allowed to. I've made the arguments for, and HR controls the actual job listings, and they won't put salary in the JDs. I've been trying for two years to make this happen. Reasons I've heard -- and again, this is not me, this is what I'm told -- include * we can't as a matter of company policy, which can't be changed * we offer great benefits (true, they're the best I've ever had) and so it's not fair to us t…

Is there anything stopping you from just telling the range to the candidate the first time you talk to them?

I do.

Re: Ask HN: Hiring managers why don't you post salary range in your job postings?

#20
I recommend asking the recruiter in their initial email / LinkedIn message to you what the comp range is. If it isn't a match or they won't tell you off the bat, move on to the next one unless you're dead set on wanting to work there.
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