Feels like both the comments in here are paid for by Notion somehow.
HN is the target of a ton of marketing groups. They have alerts set up for keywords.
Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#12I still use Evernote for scanned documents (invoices, receipts, insurance papers etc etc), and have done so for ~10 years - because I can free-text search in scanned documents.
During those years, Evernote has kept getting worse and worse, becomeing slower and more unreliable at doing cores things, while they slap features on it, that I do not want (collaboration, chat and other garbage).
I want to migrate off at some point, but 10 years of scanned documents are tricky to migrate, and frankly I do not know of any good alternatives at this point.
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#13I have used Evernote practically since it's inception and had a similar doc loss to @cconcepts where I wrote a long piece on a plane which was synced with another user. It just disappeared and was a big loss as it was due the following day. I badgered Evernote support with my ZDNet blogger hat on but never got a satisfactory answer or the doc back.
It's a terrific product but I no longer trust it for anything important. I also find the search is increasingly janky which is now a major problem. This is all a shame because it is still best of class to me
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#14Feels like both the comments in here are paid for by Notion somehow.
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#15Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#16Feels like both the comments in here are paid for by Notion somehow.
Notion has a strangely huge and fanatic fan base so it's not surprising It's like a cult
There are two cults:
* those who appreciate effortless UX that doesn't ask users to dedicate their lives to learning arcane systems i.e. CLI UIs but allow focusing on life outside computers. Notion is indeed a step forward for the industry for them.
* those who appreciate the responsiveness of CLI and don't mind the learning curve since the investment for them is worth the price. For them, Notion probably doesn't give sufficient control over their workflows and data.
These are justifiable value choices. Calling each other cults only erodes the discussion into name calling. So please don't.
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#17While I cannot comment on what changed in Evernote, eventually someone unhelpfully will ask you "WHAT? You didn't have backup?!", which is kind of a legit question.
Until then, on Evernote's Tos [1] scroll down to "What Else Do I Need to Know?" and read point f) of section "YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE That".
In summary, it says they are not in any way reaponsible for your data loss. Reading in-between the lines, it basically says, they will have outages, disruptions, or buggy updates and your responsibility is to defend yourself against these events.
[1]: https://evernote.com/legal/terms-of-service
I think you already assumed all these. I only elaborated on it because I saw this many times, even (especially?) with the largest providers like Gmail, AWS etc. And this will continue happening.
I understand (and a bit scared for) that most of the people don't even know how unsafe their data is, however, on HN I would expect everyone is (paranoid enough to) back up their data.
I hope you can recover your notes, and regardless of your success in doing so, please spend an afternoon looking up ToS's of the services you use.
(disclaimer: I worked a bit in the backup sw industry, and yes I have multiple full offline copies of my emails and notes for the past 20+y)
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#18Why don't you try Notion. Seriously, it feels so much better IMHO, with atomic rollback and you can export your data out in a non-proprietary format (MD, HTML, PDF) if it comes to difficult choices someday.
Big red buttons abound: "Try notion for free" that lead to "Sign up with....".
I'm interested (especially as i tried evernote previously and found it to be 'not for me'), but where's the pricing page [supposed to be]?
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#19Evernote have been walking a slow death march for 5+ years.
Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?
#20I’m a big fan of Joplin
The sync works with a bunch of different cloud services and I’ve yet to have a problem with it.