Sorry, I am not quite sure what the problem is? I think Wikipedia is great from my day to usage. Can you point me to specific examples where the output is bad due to this?
I would like to see the problem.
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#12Well I suppose another "Who watches the watchmen" type site can be built to report on bias issues/irresponsible editors. But ideally Wikipedia itself would build some internal mechanism for dealing with disputes. Has it done so?
I have heard that Wikipedia is "broken" before, but without specific examples the complaint comes across as hollow. And if you do have specific examples, then I think it gives people the chance to investigate your claims.
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#13maybe a contradictory bot farm ... something that can dig wide data graphs on wikipedia to point at inconsistencies and provide more fixes
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#14There are a few problems that need to be dealt with. First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Which means lots of people want a "neutral point of view" which reflects their own opinion. Secondly, there are lots of trolls and bad-faith actors. So a bureaucracy needs to be built up to deal with it in a structured and consistent (not necessarily fair) way. Thirdly, what can incentivise people? Most editors…
> First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Uh...what? Where is the proof of this?
It's a common expression. I think Stephen Colbert may have been the first to use it.
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#15There are a few problems that need to be dealt with. First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Which means lots of people want a "neutral point of view" which reflects their own opinion. Secondly, there are lots of trolls and bad-faith actors. So a bureaucracy needs to be built up to deal with it in a structured and consistent (not necessarily fair) way. Thirdly, what can incentivise people? Most editors…
> First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Uh...what? Where is the proof of this?
It's a famous Stephen Colbert quote. Google for the video.
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#16There are a few problems that need to be dealt with. First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Which means lots of people want a "neutral point of view" which reflects their own opinion. Secondly, there are lots of trolls and bad-faith actors. So a bureaucracy needs to be built up to deal with it in a structured and consistent (not necessarily fair) way. Thirdly, what can incentivise people? Most editors…
Yet, 'the facts of life are conservative'.
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#17There are a few problems that need to be dealt with. First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Which means lots of people want a "neutral point of view" which reflects their own opinion. Secondly, there are lots of trolls and bad-faith actors. So a bureaucracy needs to be built up to deal with it in a structured and consistent (not necessarily fair) way. Thirdly, what can incentivise people? Most editors…
> First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Uh...what? Where is the proof of this?
He is quoting political comedian Stephen Colbert, referring to the fact that different political groups all independently believe that their perspective is actually a reflection of reality.
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#18There are a few problems that need to be dealt with. First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Which means lots of people want a "neutral point of view" which reflects their own opinion. Secondly, there are lots of trolls and bad-faith actors. So a bureaucracy needs to be built up to deal with it in a structured and consistent (not necessarily fair) way. Thirdly, what can incentivise people? Most editors…
> First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Uh...what? Where is the proof of this?
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#19We all know Wikipedia is not perfect, wrong information can be in there, so is it relevant that some bullshit political things is not perfectly represented?
One solution would be to teach people to check multiple sources, and each political camp can put their own version of "truth" and people could read all the versions and decide .
I am curious what type of pages bothers people that they need to endlessly fight on attempting to edit them, my bias as a non american is that is about the americans and their political/cultural war and maybe a few nationalists trying to change historical facts on some pages.
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#20There are a few problems that need to be dealt with. First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Which means lots of people want a "neutral point of view" which reflects their own opinion. Secondly, there are lots of trolls and bad-faith actors. So a bureaucracy needs to be built up to deal with it in a structured and consistent (not necessarily fair) way. Thirdly, what can incentivise people? Most editors…
> First is that "Reality has a well-known liberal bias". Uh...what? Where is the proof of this?
There's no "proof." It's a joke made by comedian Steven Colbert (in character as a self-parody of a Conservative and right-wing pundit) during the 2006 White House correspondents' dinner, mocking the Bush Administration's low approval rating as "reality" having a "liberal bias." In the context of post-Trump politics, the joke would be to dismiss unfavorable poll numbers as "reality" being "fake news."