They’re not necessary unless you’re doing non-annoymised tracking, like, for example, using the Devil’s Spawn that is Facebook Pixel. If websites are doing this, and asking you to consent they need to be punished - hit the back button and boycott them forever. It’s completely unnecessary - the web would be a so much better place is we all did this.
Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
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Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#12The GDPR mandate explicit consent and websites really want your consent because they rely on those cookies. So we end up with those dark patterns pop-ups because of the usual law of incentives and self-interest. As a consequence, IMHO the only way to get rid of those pop-ups is to change the GDPR to mandate a simpler format. But that's not straightforward when there are potentially cookies for different functions and…
It’s only required if you’re doing non-anonymized tracking, which websites don’t have to do at all and is completely unethical.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
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#14In an - at least in theory - open system some if not all players over time will maximise their gain from it. So advertisers wants your data, because the more they have, the more they can earn from specialised trageting. (This is why I believe Facebook is an advertising platform, not a social network, but I digress). So at some point you can only access information when logged in and (lets say for the sake of making a point) give your name, dob and much more. (Sounds familiar, like a paywall?). The GDPR makes it inconvenient to have and track all that data if not outright illegal for some cases. And asking for confirmation to use cookies to track a user is the neccessary evil to highlight that you are tracked. I understand the annoyance it creates for you and other users. Its still necessary.
And, if I may add that, its some kind of a new understanding I got for other systems as well. Releated example: There will - over time - no better google "competitor". Know why? Because if there is, at some point, then SEO will optimize the f** out of that competitor, too and make it maximally worse for everyone. Just like the optimization in the example above with the data. Except that the GDPR is a law for EU Citicens while google/the competitor only has to make it tolarable for them and their ad renvenue.
I find that perspective incredibly frustrating: Systems will get worse to a point of equilibrium, but its not the kind of "nice to work with" you and I have in mind. (Edit: Spelling)
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#15The GDPR mandate explicit consent and websites really want your consent because they rely on those cookies. So we end up with those dark patterns pop-ups because of the usual law of incentives and self-interest. As a consequence, IMHO the only way to get rid of those pop-ups is to change the GDPR to mandate a simpler format. But that's not straightforward when there are potentially cookies for different functions and…
Is this an indictment and is it fair to say GDPR is a poorly implemented regulation? I am a pro-privacy advocate but like those cancer warning labels in California, I always accept cookies and move on. Billions of people spend a few seconds everyday clicking on these cookie banners. What would be the economic damage vs. privacy benefits? I appreciate what companies like Apple does with regards to privacy because it a…
GDPR does not mandate those pop-ups, most of them are not compliant and only exist as a way to try pretend to comply with the law.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this an indictment and is it fair to say GDPR is a poorly implemented regulation? I am a pro-privacy advocate but like those cancer warning labels in California, I always accept cookies and move on. Billions of people spend a few seconds everyday clicking on these cookie banners. What would be the economic damage vs. privacy benefits? I appreciate what companies like Apple does with regards to privacy because it a…
GDPR does not mandate those pop-ups, most of them are not compliant and only exist as a way to try pretend to comply with the law.
I didn't say it’s a mandate. It’s a terrible side effect and a loop hole.
The second part of my comment is about businesses going though GDPR checklists. I did one for my firm. It’s not too bad but if you read the entire GDPR booklet, there are varying levels of adherence to GDPR. Most small businesses check off things but the boots-on-the-ground effects are negligible. On the other hand, you could technically be liable for lawsuit, but what I hear is that GDPR isn’t enforced for small businesses like mine. That’s troubling.
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#17advertisement as webcontent is the modern spam.
I wouldn't be surpriced if this is now the majority of all internet traffic.
It used to be that spam was email related and the major internet traffic.
Re: Ask HN: GDPR pop-ups are getting so annying, what should we do about it?
#18They’re not necessary unless you’re doing non-annoymised tracking, like, for example, using the Devil’s Spawn that is Facebook Pixel. If websites are doing this, and asking you to consent they need to be punished - hit the back button and boycott them forever. It’s completely unnecessary - the web would be a so much better place is we all did this.
How are you going to boycott the entire internet? Most websites I visit show this pop up and it’s more convenient to just click ok than to move to 5 different screens and waste another 30 seconds. This is what happens when you don’t address every aspect of side effects when making the law.
People get accustomed to it just like those California cancer warning labels that are basically useless and nothing but a waste.
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#19I use the uBlock Origin filters for "annoyances" on Firefox, both desktop and mobile, and I don't ever see them. The filter is not enabled by default.
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#20Why haven’t they been implemented as a browser feature? And how comes the larger websites don’t seem to need the banners?