Same problem here. And marking genuine emails as 'not spam' does not guarantee the mail will come through next time.
Ask HN: Spammers got smarter or Gmail is no longer good?
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#12I've never had spam issues with gmail until about 3-4 weeks ago..now I get spam every single day and I always mark as spam + block, but haven't seen any improvement. My fastmail account has been a great alternative, but for many reasons I can't totally drop the gmail account
Even many emails from GitHub issues tracker were shoved into Spam erroneously.
The "not spam" button is not working very well so far this year and I'm clicking the same kind of email dozens of times as Not Spam but this is flaky and not a reliable method.
What DOES work as a manual patch to fix this, is create a Filter for a domain or email address you trust and tick the filter option to Never Mark as Spam.
Time to leave Gmail anyway...
I've just finished reading about the process before I begin moving a dozen grandfathered personal and my SMB client domains from gmail over to Fastmail.
Fastmail is going to be much better value than gmail (once these previously grandfathered free domains are no longer free with gmail any more).
Fastmail Seive plus Dropbox integration looks really powerful and I'm keen to try it.
Fastmail Reseller Account is the practical way forward for a better value feature-set.
Moving DNS hosting to Fastmail also...
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#14I never have problems with gmail+spam otherwise.
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#16I have a dark-pattern theory: Gmail tracks retention metrics, one of whose proxies are app opens. If you don’t get a lot of email, or haven’t opened the gmail app in a while, then they purposely let some spam through to trick you into an app open. Also, people who are susceptible to click on spam are likely excellent targets for Google’s behemoth ad platform, so it probably leads to higher conversion (by collecting d…
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#19I have a dark-pattern theory: Gmail tracks retention metrics, one of whose proxies are app opens. If you don’t get a lot of email, or haven’t opened the gmail app in a while, then they purposely let some spam through to trick you into an app open. Also, people who are susceptible to click on spam are likely excellent targets for Google’s behemoth ad platform, so it probably leads to higher conversion (by collecting d…
This sort of evidence-free conspiracy-theory cynicism is common these days. I don't think it's helpful.
Re: Ask HN: Spammers got smarter or Gmail is no longer good?
#20A change in the Google's antispam algorithms (is it still blacklisting?) might be the cause, and I additionally suspect the spam mails' extensive use of latin-looking unicode characters to evade the filters.