Isn't this Google's job? Are developers a small but lucrative target and so the suits at Google don't see the benefit of improving that experience by cleaning up the spam? Can we just nudge them to do so under the threat of an influential minority leaving due to their use case being affected?
Worst case scenario if Google drops the ball I just go back to the library.
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Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?
#12Isn't this Google's job? Are developers a small but lucrative target and so the suits at Google don't see the benefit of improving that experience by cleaning up the spam? Can we just nudge them to do so under the threat of an influential minority leaving due to their use case being affected?
Have you searched anything on Google lately? The answer is "no". Their new job seems to be to stuff your results with anything even remotely related (and sometimes related in a way that only machine learning can see) so you have things to click on.
Edit: with the lone exception of "find me this bussiness nearby".
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#13Isn't this Google's job? Are developers a small but lucrative target and so the suits at Google don't see the benefit of improving that experience by cleaning up the spam? Can we just nudge them to do so under the threat of an influential minority leaving due to their use case being affected?
Or more fundamentally perhaps this is just the system working as Google intended?
Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?
#14I think we are attacking the wrong angle here. This should be solved at google
Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?
#15I think we are attacking the wrong angle here. This should be solved at google
Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?
#16Isn't this Google's job? Are developers a small but lucrative target and so the suits at Google don't see the benefit of improving that experience by cleaning up the spam? Can we just nudge them to do so under the threat of an influential minority leaving due to their use case being affected?
Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?
#17Isn't this Google's job? Are developers a small but lucrative target and so the suits at Google don't see the benefit of improving that experience by cleaning up the spam? Can we just nudge them to do so under the threat of an influential minority leaving due to their use case being affected?
I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but I think Google is now fully in the 'optimize for engagement' camp. If that's what they're doing, it's by definition not spam (from their point of view) if people are clicking on it more than the non-spam results.
Again, only my guess as to what's going on. I don't see another good explanation for them only serving cloned Stackoverflow and top X lists for basically everything now.
Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?
#18I think we are attacking the wrong angle here. This should be solved at google
In short, if you find what you are looking for, they get few ad impressions and make less money. Meanwhile, if you have to click through half a dozen spam results first, there are many ad impressions, and they make more money.
Re: Ask HN: Let's build an HN uBlacklist to improve our Google search results?
#19I think we are attacking the wrong angle here. This should be solved at google
Until that incentive structure changes, Google will not be interested in solving this.