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Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

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Re: Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

#11
Not at all.

He is not just smart. Smart people with annoying behavior are over-smart. Why you are killing your time on someone who would make fun of your company vision too?

When you hire, hire someone so that you would want to pay them more every month for their work/involvement in your organization.

Re: Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

#12
Hire him on a 90 day trial period. Pay him for those 90 days, of course, but after that time, that's when you should know if his technical skills outbalance the "annoying factor." He may be a great guy once you get to know him, and he also may the be best engineer you've ever hired, but you never know.

Re: Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

#13
Do not hire as employee. The collective cost of dealing with the annoyance will far outweigh the geek's contribution.

However, consider hiring him as an on-call "consultant" for "special projects" in case the team falls behind schedule. It might motivate them to get ahead. :)

Re: Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

#14
Being consistently loud and annoying are indications that this person doesn't adapt well to his surroundings, especially if everyone around him seems displeased. It may be a sign of poor overall judgement.

It may also be that this person was nervous when you interviewed him, and didn't have the forethought to say "I get loud and annoying when I'm really nervous, it will pass."

My advice: test him out. If he is truly great, and you really need a truly great developer, and the annoying bits don't go away: isolate him from your team, manage him closely, and keep him happy.

Re: Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

#16
I once, as a manager, had the most brilliant employee, who did not shower regularly. Others didn't want to work with him. When all development could go through version control, it worked fine; When there was need for interactive team work, it didn't work at all.

Depends on how work flows in your organization, I guess.

Re: Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

#17
Depends on how important social skills are to the position. An annoying person probably shouldn't be making initial contact with potential clients. On the other hand, if they are part of a team of smart annoying people whose job is to sit in the dark and write code, why not?

Re: Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

#18
From the point of view of someone who is much like the candidate you interviewed(could be him too!) here are some factors you need to consider before making a decision.

a) What is the size of the team that he is going to be collaborating with when writing code...If its just him or a team of two people..He could be an asset since annoying people are mostly very confident and motivated and when working alone they can be very very productive (Case in point:Linus Torvalds).But then that works the other way too.

b) Is someone smart going to be mentoring him...I feel like he needs a mentor or someone who he can learn from...the annoying attitude is mostly just a defence mechanism...once you can prove that he has something to learn from you or his boss his annoying behaviour will most likely go away.(Case in Point:Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting).

c) The culture of your company...Are you a company where you focus more on stability or you focus more on creating ....As the Steve Jobs says in the movie ,Pirates of the Silicon Valley,"Creation is messy".....and needless to say people who dont give a fuck about the status quo or what you think about them are an essential part of that mess.

d) "Not sure if feedback to him would change those things (they're hardwired/part of his personality)"...I dont know if this is an assumption you are making or this is part of the question.....Feedback to him could certainly change things...especially if you point out to him what parts of his behaviour are annoying in particular and why exactly is that counter-productive to the company and himself too.Smart people are also reasonable and if you have good enough reasons to support your suggestions he will acquiesce and will respect you for your candor.

EDIT1: Grammar EDIT2:I just got a rejection email from the company I interviewed at.So I deleted the personal note.The other points still hold.Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

#19
Is this hire critical in terms of timing? If yes, then I would go with the other's suggestions of doing a trial period. Provide feedback and positive reinforcement.

If no, then I would absolutely hit the pool again and find someone who's both a technical and culture fit. This post might be helpful for you: http://actionablebooks.com/culture-fit-whatever-that-means/

Also, how big is your team? If it's small enough that this person would throw off the flow and stick out like a sore thumb, then I would say no again.

Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: Would you hire someone whose very smart but annoying?

#20
Personal experience: no. It damages the entire team. I've seen how team morale improves when such a person departs.

Talked to a friend today who is way, way good at polo (the horse type). The head guy at his stable picks players (in South America) as follows: (1) he asks around for "nice" people. (2) he goes and watches them play. (3) he extends offers. Screening for potential members of the team happens in that order.

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