They give you a paper card that then people ask to see to prove you've been vaccinated.
Any biological effects the vaccines have are essentially irrelevant, they're a tribal sign and "sacrifice ritual".
Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
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Re: Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
#12hmm well do you have heart issues yet? american heart association said that the vaccines cause heart issues. the paper was released on nov 8th, not trying to make anyone worry but yeah it’s a side effect see: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.107... a peer reviewed journal
"Cause heart issues" What percentage of people get it? If it's super low than it's not straightforward to say they cause heart issues. That's like the few people per year that slip on banana peels and die... "Banana peels cause death!"
This particular “abstract” is from a guy selling diet supplements.
Re: Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Cause heart issues" What percentage of people get it? If it's super low than it's not straightforward to say they cause heart issues. That's like the few people per year that slip on banana peels and die... "Banana peels cause death!"
This particular “abstract” is from a guy selling diet supplements.
Well, to be fair(er), it seems his main/first career was heart surgeon.
Re: Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
#14There is a test for antibodies which medical professional have to go through in some cases. You will only get a binary result though if you have protection or not.
Re: Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
#15hmm well do you have heart issues yet? american heart association said that the vaccines cause heart issues. the paper was released on nov 8th, not trying to make anyone worry but yeah it’s a side effect see: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.107... a peer reviewed journal
Here's a different standpoint to your article [1]. The rhetoric used in the Twitter thread is unnecessary, but it presents a bit more context. [1] https://twitter.com/lfoquet/status/1462888024862121990
Single purpose accounts aren't allowed here, and neither is using HN primarily for ideological battle, so I've banned this account. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with.
Re: Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
#16They give you a paper card that then people ask to see to prove you've been vaccinated. Any biological effects the vaccines have are essentially irrelevant, they're a tribal sign and "sacrifice ritual".
Not really sure why this is downvoted.
We now know for a fact that comprehensive population vaccination is not sufficient to reduce the R0-value of the infection below 1, so the "protect others" rationalization is entirely invalid.
Restricting freedom of movement and association on the basis of a mandatory medical treatment that does NOT sterilize the population of something that has long been endemic is purely an authoritarian power play, with a dash of virtue signaling thrown in.
Don't get me wrong, it will definitely help YOU and YOUR own mortality risk, but the population protection argument is a ship that has long since sunk. Any advocacy for mandates at this point is motivated by pure fascistic tyranny, and nothing else.
Re: Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a different standpoint to your article [1]. The rhetoric used in the Twitter thread is unnecessary, but it presents a bit more context. [1] https://twitter.com/lfoquet/status/1462888024862121990
Single purpose accounts aren't allowed here, and neither is using HN primarily for ideological battle, so I've banned this account. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
> Single purpose accounts aren't allowed here
What's wrong with that? Some users really like to talk a lot about Java [1] and I am mainly interested in talking about the ongoing pandemic. HN offers a great format to have balanced discussions with a technical/science-oriented community. Additionally, it doesn't seem like COVID-19 topics are spamming/dominating the main page.
> and neither is using HN primarily for ideological battle
I started the thread to find out more about the current situation. One user replied with an article against vaccines. I tried to offer more context (i.e. defending the vaccines). In a different thread [2], a user underestimated the risks of vaccinating children and, again, I tried to balance it out (i.e. criticizing the vaccines). And sometimes, I just like to add a comment to confront the absurdities of today's governance [3]. Where am I primarily engaging in ideological battle?
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=Skinney (Just a random user)
Re: Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Single purpose accounts aren't allowed here, and neither is using HN primarily for ideological battle, so I've banned this account. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
> Single purpose accounts aren't allowed here What's wrong with that? Some users really like to talk a lot about Java [1] and I am mainly interested in talking about the ongoing pandemic. HN offers a great format to have balanced discussions with a technical/science-oriented community. Additionally, it doesn't seem like COVID-19 topics are spamming/dominating the main page. > and neither is using HN primarily for ide…
What's wrong with that is that such accounts are invariably agenda-driven rather than curiosity-driven, and that destroys what the site is supposed to be for.
Curiosity meanders in unpredictable directions, so there's basically zero overlap here.
Re: Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Single purpose accounts aren't allowed here What's wrong with that? Some users really like to talk a lot about Java [1] and I am mainly interested in talking about the ongoing pandemic. HN offers a great format to have balanced discussions with a technical/science-oriented community. Additionally, it doesn't seem like COVID-19 topics are spamming/dominating the main page. > and neither is using HN primarily for ide…
What's wrong with that is that such accounts are invariably agenda-driven rather than curiosity-driven, and that destroys what the site is supposed to be for. Curiosity meanders in unpredictable directions, so there's basically zero overlap here.
IMO, it's unfortunate that you see my comments/threads as invariably destructive & agenda-driven, essentially putting them on a level with this [1] (although that user wasn't banned). I'd be glad to continue the discussions about the pandemic. Your site, your decision.
Re: Ask HN: How do I know my Covid-19 vaccine is working?
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's wrong with that is that such accounts are invariably agenda-driven rather than curiosity-driven, and that destroys what the site is supposed to be for. Curiosity meanders in unpredictable directions, so there's basically zero overlap here.
IMO, it's unfortunate that you see my comments/threads as invariably destructive & agenda-driven, essentially putting them on a level with this [1] (although that user wasn't banned). I'd be glad to continue the discussions about the pandemic. Your site, your decision. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29328994
You can't get meaningful signal out of pointing to one bad comment like that. We don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted here (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...). I've responded now.
Bad as that comment was, it's clear from the account history that there's no parallel between how they've been using HN and what we banned you for. I assume I explained the latter clearly enough, so I'm not sure why you would bring up a distraction like that.
Also, it's not in very good taste to point the finger at someone else when getting moderated. People do that all the time, of course, but it tends to be a signal that they don't really care about the values of the site.