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Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#11
I am sorry to hear of this. I have been though a similar situation with my wife. She was diagnosed in early 30s and it was completely unexpected. About 6-7 year in retrospect, she managed through the surgeries/chemo fairly well. Being young is an advantage in that regard. Also, it was detected early and had a high chance of survival. Her mom was also retired and young enough to help with the daily stuff and general companionship during the processes. Even though it makes no real difference, you’ll find yourself wanting to be present at every treatment, doctors appointment, etc. And, it’s very difficult if you’re healthy and trying to minimize impact on your personal career.

All said, we had it very “easy”. But that didn’t lessen the impact it had on my psyche. The diagnosis and decisions about treatments put us in a cloud for easily 3 months (could hardly carry a conversation at work). Even after that, it took me about a full year to really feel like anything at work was even important. I coasted for probably 2 years all said. My work was extremely supportive and I offloaded much of my responsibilities. It was probably something similar to a depressive state. I disconnected from almost anything not related to family. Even now, I have not jumped back into my career full stop. I enjoyed the balanced pace and have only went after opportunities that aligned with that. (Probably common to what many people are doing now that it’s “post”-COVID). I view this as a silver lining along with the big silver lining of it pushing us to decide we actually did want a kid (we now have a 3yo).

If you’re the breadwinner and have a demanding job that does not tolerate lower performance, just be honest with yourself on your priorities and be proactive to leave on good terms and find the job that will work for you. What I learned most of all is, there are big things that happen in life that will force you to rip up your game plan and pivot. This is what worked for me. I met several people along the way that said they dealt with it by diving deeper into work. They found it a good distraction I suppose. But for me at least, that’s a recipe for regret and I never thought that made sense. I wish you good luck and hope my perspective/experience gives you food for thought at least. Email me if you want to chat (in profile).

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#12

I wish I had some good answers for you. I have been through this with my wife when my children were young. One thing I would do better if / when I go through it again: When people say: "If there is anything you need, just ask", accept immediately and specifically. - please mow my lawn every week, or organize someone else - please do this shopping trip for me - please cook Friday evening meals and bring them around -…

I would also add that many people are not used to asking for help like this, and he may need to really encourage his mother to get requests out of her.

It took a long time for my father to ask for help, and I could have been helping sooner.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#14
I’ve found therapy and support groups helpful during and after going through this. People at work and other places may not get it or have the capacity to care to the extent to make a difference.

It’s weird when people are having conversations about dealing with a home purchase or finding a daycare then when asked “what have you been up to?” Saying “dealing with a family member who is/may be dying” and then they say “oh wow, sorry to hear that let us know if we can be of support” and knowing they don’t really mean it and are just kind of trying to move on to an easier conversation.

It’s not an easy thing to go through.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#15

I wish I had some good answers for you. I have been through this with my wife when my children were young. One thing I would do better if / when I go through it again: When people say: "If there is anything you need, just ask", accept immediately and specifically. - please mow my lawn every week, or organize someone else - please do this shopping trip for me - please cook Friday evening meals and bring them around -…

I would also add that many people are not used to asking for help like this, and he may need to really encourage his mother to get requests out of her. It took a long time for my father to ask for help, and I could have been helping sooner.

True, yes.

I actually meant: as one of the primary caregivers, you will be very busy and very drained emotionally. Accept help if offered.

The examples above would have been useful to me, if only to spare some energy for getting through the week.

It was also very draining on me to have people come around to talk about things and "support" us (actually the reverse in many cases), so I would also try to avoid these favours becoming social events. That's what would work for me, anyway.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

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post #7

Whatever you do, don’t stop treatment. Follow the doctor’s advice, but at the same time use critical thinking, and seek a second opinion (from a doctor, not alternative medicine) when in doubt. As for coping from her side - be understanding, encouraging and accepting. If she loses hair, or gets bad skin - don’t make it a big deal.

Choosing treatment is a very personal thing. My father chose to stop his chemo treatments and it improved his standard of living dramatically. (he's still fighting cancer) A friend of mine (a nurse) said she'd never torture her self like she's seen so many people do with some treatments. (She died of cancer a few years ago)

Sometimes other's people's advice isn't based on what is best for you, but on an aggregate across many people, and you could be on the bad side of percentages.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

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post #7

Whatever you do, don’t stop treatment. Follow the doctor’s advice, but at the same time use critical thinking, and seek a second opinion (from a doctor, not alternative medicine) when in doubt. As for coping from her side - be understanding, encouraging and accepting. If she loses hair, or gets bad skin - don’t make it a big deal.

Choosing treatment is a very personal thing. My father chose to stop his chemo treatments and it improved his standard of living dramatically. (he's still fighting cancer) A friend of mine (a nurse) said she'd never torture her self like she's seen so many people do with some treatments. (She died of cancer a few years ago) Sometimes other's people's advice isn't based on what is best for you, but on an aggregate acr…

Absolutely. What I had in mind was that if you choose not to pursue treatment, make it a conscious decision and be aware of the consequences.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#18
I'm really sorry to hear that. This post is bringing back memories of my uncle. He had a two year battle with battle with brain tumour, and he was the smartest person I know, Principal scientist at Qualcomm.

After learning about his terminal cancer, I didn't know what to do. I distracted myself with work not knowing how heart broken I was. Finally after two months, it took a very intense yoga class to break me open and let out the tears and face the grief of losing him.

As others have mentioned, talking to a therapist will help you navigate the feelings so that you can be more present with her, in whatever capacity you can.

I have such fond memories of the little things I got to do with him. The little big things.

take care of yourself <3

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

#19
There are many support forums for cancer, often specific to the type of cancer. Please consider joining them.

Those are of great help is many ways - they can tell you what to expect during various stages of the treatment, long term issues, clinical trial information (may be important if you're eligible), as well as support and success stories. People are always super helpful if you ask them questions.

In addition, if there's an inherited risk for the type of cancer, get yourself tested at the appropriate age.

Re: Ask HN: Coping with cancer in the family

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post #7

Whatever you do, don’t stop treatment. Follow the doctor’s advice, but at the same time use critical thinking, and seek a second opinion (from a doctor, not alternative medicine) when in doubt. As for coping from her side - be understanding, encouraging and accepting. If she loses hair, or gets bad skin - don’t make it a big deal.

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