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Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

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Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#11
That's a really tricky thought exercise. Legal trusts in most countries have time limits. Businesses come and go all the time. I think you are describing the same dilemma that companies offering freezing/preservation of your body or head upon death/near-death are dealing with. That is probably the business model I would study to find out what countries have the legal structure to support their requirements and thus your requirements. Even then they and their clients are accepting some risk. I suspect you will have to invest some capitol in this if you don't want your future generations to carry on this project on your behalf.

If your time requirements were shorter I would suggest a legal trust and set requirements for trustees to ensure the domain and site are preserved. I would also add instructions in the site itself to have family members preserve the site or even create new domains or methods of presentation. Each generation of family member could then create their own trust and repeat the process through inheritance. Your lineage could essentially leap-frog the system and compensate for businesses going bankrupt or technologies changing assuming they value the site and wish to add to it. I think your future generations would appreciate the ability to update the site. "Keys change, technologies are updated..." -- The Davinci Code

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#12
Become really famous (or infamous) so you don't have to host anything. Others will do it for you. Think about all the people you know who existed 500+ years ago. Did we just happen to find a book/stone where they wrote their story ? It was more about what they did that created history. So, create history and you will be hosted for ever. Think of names like Julius Caeser etc.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#14
Since there are many variations of "then don't use a website!" Answers here, I'll restate the puzzle.

Say you had to host the information as a set of static HTML documents and you wanted them to remain accessible for as long as possible; what strategy would give you the best odds?

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#15

Look at what has lasted 500 years, and use those media. Websites are not among them. 1) stone 2) books if printed on the right kind of paper 3) metal if it's not something subject to rust Even if it is possible to make a website that lasts 500 years, I expect we haven't figured out how yet. I'm sure it took people a while to figure out how to make long-lasting tombstones; early North American ones were often made out…

This isn't a fair premise. Websites have not existed for 500 years and were not possible until roughly around the time of their inception.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#16
How do you know what the internet will look like in 500 years? Sites from 20 years ago are broken, you can expect that unless you’re using plain text and html that standards will change in 500 years and people will not be able to access your site.

Then there’s issues with domains. You’d have to setup a trust and again assume we will still be using domains in 500 years. If you use something like S3 then you’ll have to ensure they’re around for 500 years.

My perspective, this is entirely unrealistic.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#17
Hm. I think your best bet is to make it easy for archive.org to archive.

archive.org will work on making your legacy technology work, as they are doing for flash, for example. Or they will find projects to make that work. That has a higher probability to work, opposed to finding a silver bullet now.

Though, the silver bullet there would be to minimize technological complexity. Make a simple static site with hugo, for example. That's easy to archive entirely.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#19
Probably the only way that has a chance of success is some kind of trust fund that will accumulate funds to keep the website in operation, including converting it several times to whatever's in fashion in 100, 200... 500 years.

Or, as some other post has already said, become so famous that people will record everything you've said. Although the first option only requires becoming moderately rich, which may be easier.

Re: Ask HN: Best way to host a website for 500 years?

#20
500 years is too long for modern tech. You will definitely need many copies of different types of storage, down to atomic-level records such as DNA. GitHub's Arctic Code or Amazon vault looks like the first Godzilla computers, but you're asking for a "500-years PC".

Perhaps there will be a technology that allows you to write site files in the DNA directly of your children and run a micro-DNA web server in the body, and your grandchildren can surf on your Internet data in the brain.

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