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Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
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Re: Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
#12If writing a CRUD app - go Django if you like Python or Rails if you prefer Ruby. Most pages won't require any js but drop in React where needed.
Re: Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
#13Usually going as light as possible with lit-html (starting using the open-wc starter). Most likely in Javascript, not typescript. 99% of the time I don't need a backend, and just directly use firebase / supabase or an equivalent. Can't beat 2 dependencies :). Deployment gets either done on firebase or Netlify
"firebase"
I've seen that mentioned a few times and never looked into it but you inspired to do that and I was pretty surprised to see it's a Google thing. Shoot, it's pretty much Google "Everything".
I get the reasoning behind using it, I really do, but for those same reasons I just can't.
"supabase" I've not heard of, but that's a lot more interesting to me and I might spend some time learning more about that. Thank you for sharing that!
Re: Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
#14Usually going as light as possible with lit-html (starting using the open-wc starter). Most likely in Javascript, not typescript. 99% of the time I don't need a backend, and just directly use firebase / supabase or an equivalent. Can't beat 2 dependencies :). Deployment gets either done on firebase or Netlify
"firebase" I've seen that mentioned a few times and never looked into it but you inspired to do that and I was pretty surprised to see it's a Google thing. Shoot, it's pretty much Google "Everything". I get the reasoning behind using it, I really do, but for those same reasons I just can't. "supabase" I've not heard of, but that's a lot more interesting to me and I might spend some time learning more about that. Than…
No worries! I try to avoid google myself as well but Firebase is the simplest I know for auth/nosqlAAS.
Supabase is the new kid on the block, it's great but still a little rough on the edges. If you're more of an Amazon fan, the closest equivalent to Firebase will be AWS Amplify.
Enjoy!
Re: Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
#15Consider just signing up for Shopify and being done with it. What are the custom features? It’s likely there are already Shopify plug-ins/services for this.
Re: Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
#16I start by building a Web site which works without JavaScript, and enhance it from there.
Could you please add more on this? You mean simple HTML + CSS?
Re: Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
#17Take a look at WooCommerce. There's a lot in a fully featured eCommerce site. Don't roll your own when you don't have to.
If you want to 'own the code' that's special to your particular eCommerce site, write your own plugins for that.
Re: Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
#18If writing a CRUD app - go Django if you like Python or Rails if you prefer Ruby. Most pages won't require any js but drop in React where needed.
Great answer. Some alternatives:
Spring Framework for backend if you are a Java dev.
Vue for frontend. Pretty easy to pick up.
Re: Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
#19Redwoodjs is nearly 1.0. It's based on React and solves data fetching, data storage and deployment with an opinionated approach
Re: Ask HN: How does one start a web app nowadays? (2021)
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vercel is the main developer behind NextJS so I use them, you can do the same with Netlify but it's not as plug and play, there's a bit more setup involved although still not much.
Just tested Vercel. It is cool, but is deployment/hosting really so difficult that companies are willing to pay for such a service?
Companies tend to want to pay for the ease of use (push-to-deploy with basically zero setup), centralized access, and the really cool features around push previews (create a PR and get a preview that you can explore).