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Re: Ask HN: How to Do Accent Reduction?

#11
"If you are interested in accent modification, you can contact a speech-language pathologist. Accent modification is not provided in the medical setting, so try a private practician or a nearby university that has a graduate program in communication disorders or speech-language pathology. Not every program will have a therapist with this type of experience. I know that Emerson College used to have an experience accent mod therapist, though that may have changed. Many therapists can provide services remotely if there's not someone near you." (Quoted from my partner, an SLP.)

Re: Ask HN: How to Do Accent Reduction?

#12
I'm in the same boat. I'm French and have been living in the US for 3 years and I still have a thick accent. That being said I've improved.

To make my accent more "standard" I use a combination of the Elsa Speak app (https://elsaspeak.com/) and the American Accent Training by Ann Cook that comes with audio exercises that you can download. I can't praise the latter enough.

Changing your accent is long journey that requires dedication, but I'd say that with my app + book combo I'm seeing steady improvements.

Re: Ask HN: How to Do Accent Reduction?

#13
One tip from reading this post: I can see that you're writing sentences that are too long.

- Write simple small sentences.

- Put a space after your periods.

- For engineering communication use white-space liberally. This last one is not standard English writing style, but I love it for work communication.

Re: Ask HN: How to Do Accent Reduction?

#14
I actually found a way to do this and it worked really really well.

Find an english song you like and know very well, record yourself singing it, it's gonna sound horrible trust me, listen to it, you're going to notice all the tiny mispronunciations because you know the song very well, and you also know how to pronounce it correctly for the same reason.

Now you have a good reference to work with, pay close attention and start fixing little by little.

It worked for me, maybe because I like playing guitar and signing, but I guess it can be done with other recordings as well, like TV shows or speeches.

Re: Ask HN: How to Do Accent Reduction?

#15
Try shadowing.

Shadowing is basically just playing audio and repeating what you hear as soon as you hear it. You can do it by just watching Netflix/youtube. The ideal setup is a pair of headphones and microphone that plays your own voice back into your headphones to help you hear yourself.

Focused shadowing sessions will increase your awareness of sounds that differ in your current spoken voice and your goal.

One more thing: Watch out for 'small' mistakes in your writing. No space between a period and the next sentence. Pronoun 'I' not being capitalized. Spelling mistakes. They tend not to cause communication problems but people may label you as having weak English because of them.

Re: Ask HN: How to Do Accent Reduction?

#17
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This could be a startup idea. I’m sure there are lots of tech companies that would pay lots of money so that their employees could master English and improve their accents.

It's a solved problem that remains unsolved for other reasons. I've seen this tried a bit and... not always a great success.

Often a HR 'initiative' or management whim to buy a product or hire someone dedicated to this, but it's got to have management momentum.

Take a call centre - easy to add into feedback, measure, monitor, should gel with on-the-job performance, the feedback often with a dedicated QA or QA team providing input.

Take a (classic, bigorg) development team - not so much regular communication (spoken), and what there is gets stuffed into conference calls and [fake] 'scrums'. Those that already have good communication (and technical) skills do OK, those hired for technical skills (with language and softer skills taking a back seat, as when a role is created or becomes free then filling it with someone reasonably up-to-speed becomes the priority - I know this is setting yourself up to fail - and 'language' a long term improvement target - if someone's gone through 10 years+ of English language education I don't think 2 hours coaching per week, now with a fulltime job, perhaps getting married, social life, perhaps kids, other hobbies, is going to work but for all but the most committed).

It's a solved problem. What's not solved is banging management head against the wall with (long term) bad-fit hires OR giving staff a proper amount of time (10 hours pr week, company time, personal time as they choose) to allow them to develop as a long term fit with the company.

And on development conference calls - so so so many times dominated by someone in a position of seniority or more fluent language to the extent no one else gets a chance to get practice of making a substantial and cooperative (i.e. discuss, not just blast what's been done) contribution and having a discussion (going round "what's achieved, what are you doing, any roadblocks" doesn't count).

Re: Ask HN: How to Do Accent Reduction?

#18
post #5

This could be a startup idea. I’m sure there are lots of tech companies that would pay lots of money so that their employees could master English and improve their accents.

Also I would say at this time where wfh is significant part of job market.Communication skills are more important than before

Re: Ask HN: How to Do Accent Reduction?

#19
One thing I recommend is making sure the English native speakers you talk to know that you want to improve your accent. Make them realize that you would welcome their corrections and suggestions.

Also, there's a big difference between accent and grammar. Make sure you work on both, because one without the other will still cause problems.

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