I'd say Poland, good defense capabilities, moderate climate, great, modern infrastructure, economic resilience (vis a vis 2008 financial crisis)
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#12I'd say Poland, good defense capabilities, moderate climate, great, modern infrastructure, economic resilience (vis a vis 2008 financial crisis)
> good defense capabilities
Poland, as many other European countries, has terrible defense capabilities - it's basically mostly a flat plain that can be invaded without having to deal with any natural obstacles (mountains, swamps etc.). Also, there's not that many forests. Realistically, any prolonged guerilla warfare against overwhelming enemy forces (the only strategy that works in cases of big power disparity - see US vs Vietnam, US or USSR vs Afghanistan, USSR vs Finland, Germany vs Switzerland (Germans decided the attack is not worth it given how many mountains are there in Switzerland)) could be only done in the mountainous southernmost part of Poland. Other than that, we're gonna get steamrolled, like we (or France, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium etc.) did in 1939.
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#13I'd say Poland, good defense capabilities, moderate climate, great, modern infrastructure, economic resilience (vis a vis 2008 financial crisis)
> good defense capabilities Poland, as many other European countries, has terrible defense capabilities - it's basically mostly a flat plain that can be invaded without having to deal with any natural obstacles (mountains, swamps etc.). Also, there's not that many forests. Realistically, any prolonged guerilla warfare against overwhelming enemy forces (the only strategy that works in cases of big power disparity - se…
I was talking about an army.
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#14In a societal collapse scenario, you probably want to live in a country with decent defence ability and enough clout to throw its weight around in international diplomacy, even if quality of life is lower than some of the smaller, better located, better governed countries. Eg. Germany over Sweden.
Due to climate change, Germany will become Spain (and Spain will become north of Africa) by 2050. So, perhaps the north of Sweden would suit better.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> good defense capabilities Poland, as many other European countries, has terrible defense capabilities - it's basically mostly a flat plain that can be invaded without having to deal with any natural obstacles (mountains, swamps etc.). Also, there's not that many forests. Realistically, any prolonged guerilla warfare against overwhelming enemy forces (the only strategy that works in cases of big power disparity - se…
I was talking about an army.
The army may last a couple of weeks against an Russian invasion... I wouldn't call it "good defense capabilities". Switzerland has good defense capabilities.
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#17As long as we are not talking WW3,
Russia is hands down best place to be, it could easily stay cohesive with a lower standard of living, has been switching to internal supply chains for a decade now, has swaths of empty land and population not foreign to a concept of living off land, but most importantly it is under populated.
Low population density - check
Good defense - check
Cultural and societal background necessary for a post collapse - check
Carrying capacity of land - check
Energy (oil/atomic) - check
Nukes - check
Base of LOWER(more resilient to supply chain disruptions) tech industry - check
Benefits from climate change - check
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#18Probably a scandinavian country, Sweden seems like a good bet with a decent social system and well maintained infrastructure.
I wouldn't bet on Sweden in 2050, they're heading for a demographic collapse.
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#19“Considering climate change”:
Ask yourself what type of answer you’d have gotten in 1970s when the climate change fear at the time was that we’d all be freezing.
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#20There will be masses of climate refugees fleeing tropical countries and heading towards the poles. Which countries will let them in and which will push them back into the sea?