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Re: Ask HN: How do you handle SMS and MMS?

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Does anybody know a programmatic VOIP provider that will appear as a standard mobile number? I've got a voip.ms number that cannot text with some other providers (like xfinity phone service), and website snake oil auth doesn't like it either. I've got another number with Google Voice that hasn't had these problems (I think because it looks just like a Project Fi number), but the lack of software choice sucks. I'd love to move away from Google, even if it means paying a bit, but the number has got to work as a general number.

I've got a plan to set up a fixed cell modem with a cheap SIM for snakeoil auth, etc, but that won't help for keeping a long term well-known number.

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle SMS and MMS?

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Does anybody know a programmatic VOIP provider that will appear as a standard mobile number? I've got a voip.ms number that cannot text with some other providers (like xfinity phone service), and website snake oil auth doesn't like it either. I've got another number with Google Voice that hasn't had these problems (I think because it looks just like a Project Fi number), but the lack of software choice sucks. I'd lov…

Andrews & Arnold can provide real UK mobile numbers.

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle SMS and MMS?

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Twilio is famously good at SMS/MMS (disclosure: I work there)

Also note that twillio has shown[0] it will cut off your service if it disagrees with you. [0] https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/twilio-jeff-lawson-parle...

Seems very reasonable to me.

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle SMS and MMS?

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Been using twilio for over 4 years. 300-500 sms per day. Never a single issue, I don't recal having to adjust code in a few years. Couldn't be happier.

For real. My code has been stable for 4 years too. Not changing the API is a huge, normally overlooked feature to products.

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle SMS and MMS?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also note that twillio has shown[0] it will cut off your service if it disagrees with you. [0] https://www.protocol.com/enterprise/twilio-jeff-lawson-parle...

Seems very reasonable to me.

Seems reasonable until you're the target. I personally think companies each enforcing their moral compass w/r to whom their customers can be creates too much of an unstable landscape (particularly societal).

This is one of the reason we have more and more protected classes. Political ideology just isn't one (yet?)

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle SMS and MMS?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems very reasonable to me.

Seems reasonable until you're the target. I personally think companies each enforcing their moral compass w/r to whom their customers can be creates too much of an unstable landscape (particularly societal). This is one of the reason we have more and more protected classes. Political ideology just isn't one (yet?)

People calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government is not a "protected class." Plotting an overthrow is not political ideology. Demagoguery pandering to the ignorant and uneducated should not be a protected class. All of this applies equally to Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, Green Party, etc. By the way, I personally am 100% independent, I think all political parties are pretty idiotic. Just saying.

But, to bring it full circle, I don't think that someone selling socks or underwear on Twilio is going to be banned. When that happens, ok.

Furthermore, I know people believe in freedom of expression, and more or less capitalism. I know the Republican Party members side pretty heavily with the cake maker that refused to make cakes for gay weddings, or Catholic hospitals that refuse to offer birth control pills or abortions. But for some reason, when a privately owned company like Twillio, or Facebook, or whomever wants to limit their customer base, it's always a different story, then. For me, yes. For you, no.

Re: Ask HN: How do you handle SMS and MMS?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems reasonable until you're the target. I personally think companies each enforcing their moral compass w/r to whom their customers can be creates too much of an unstable landscape (particularly societal). This is one of the reason we have more and more protected classes. Political ideology just isn't one (yet?)

People calling for the overthrow of a democratically elected government is not a "protected class." Plotting an overthrow is not political ideology. Demagoguery pandering to the ignorant and uneducated should not be a protected class. All of this applies equally to Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, Peace and Freedom, Green Party, etc. By the way, I personally am 100% independent, I think all political parties are…

>Plotting an overthrow is not political ideology. Demagoguery pandering to the ignorant and uneducated should not be a protected class.

Who decides what is overthrow/bad speech? Are they fallible? Do you think protecting the "ignorant masses" is beneficial to democracy? If you have someone dictate what can be said to you, won't that make you less able to think for yourself?

>I know the Republican Party members side pretty heavily with the cake maker that refused to make cakes for gay weddings

Although I agree there always are logically inconsistent people, I don't think this backs it up. Cakes matter so much less than than speech. I haven't thought/not familiar with the hospitals so that might be more appropriate.

>But, to bring it full circle, I don't think that someone selling socks or underwear on Twilio is going to be banned. When that happens, ok.

Yes, but they have shown they want a say in how you conduct your business. What if they ban you for doing business with certain people, what prevents them? (Not their morals as far as they've shown).

Not saying it's likely you will get banned, but I think it should be considered so companies don't all start doing this and you have to shop companies+moral compass.

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