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Ask HN: Why don't recruiters do our salary negotiations for us

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Re: Ask HN: Why don't recruiters do our salary negotiations for us

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Salary negotiation is complicated and recruiters are mostly useless middlemen. They're sort of used car salesemen (with used car being you :) ) that need to move inventory off the lot. It less important to spend time to get extra 5% then sell two cars quicker. No offence but it's a good analogy.

> Salary negotiation is complicated

It’s really not unless you’re attempting to extract the theoretical maximum from each negotiation.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't recruiters do our salary negotiations for us

#12

Recruiters just want to close deals. They don’t care particularly if you get an extra 5-10k, they work in volume.

As the candidate if you tell them the deal will be closed if you can get an extra 5-10K then you can use them to negotiate for that on your behalf.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't recruiters do our salary negotiations for us

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post #6

Salary negotiation is complicated and recruiters are mostly useless middlemen. They're sort of used car salesemen (with used car being you :) ) that need to move inventory off the lot. It less important to spend time to get extra 5% then sell two cars quicker. No offence but it's a good analogy.

> Salary negotiation is complicated It’s really not unless you’re attempting to extract the theoretical maximum from each negotiation.

What else would people negotiate for?

Re: Ask HN: Why don't recruiters do our salary negotiations for us

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I had a recruiter who did this once. He got me 30% over market rate by telling the company I was a senior engineer whom he had known for years. As someone who had graduated from uni about a year earlier, I had a very bewildering year at the company.

Hahaha that's awesome. Thanks for sharing!

Re: Ask HN: Why don't recruiters do our salary negotiations for us

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post #10
post #6

Salary negotiation is complicated and recruiters are mostly useless middlemen. They're sort of used car salesemen (with used car being you :) ) that need to move inventory off the lot. It less important to spend time to get extra 5% then sell two cars quicker. No offence but it's a good analogy.

In the freakonomics book Dan Ariely makes the same point. Here with real state agents when they are selling your house they tend to encourage you to accept the first rational offer because for them is better to move the house inventory tan the extra % in the commission. However when they are selling their own houses ... the houses tendon yo stay 3 weeks more on average, because there they have a better incentive to w…

Totally agree.

In fact real estate agents are pretty much never acting in the best interests of their customers (buyer or sellers).

All of them are interested in making transaction happen faster to "move inventory". Negotiating better deal for their client is a waste of time for agents, although none of them will ever acknowledge it.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't recruiters do our salary negotiations for us

#17
post #15

I had a recruiter who did this once. He got me 30% over market rate by telling the company I was a senior engineer whom he had known for years. As someone who had graduated from uni about a year earlier, I had a very bewildering year at the company.

Hahaha that's awesome. Thanks for sharing!

It was not awesome. Strongly do not recommend.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't recruiters do our salary negotiations for us

#19
post #6

Salary negotiation is complicated and recruiters are mostly useless middlemen. They're sort of used car salesemen (with used car being you :) ) that need to move inventory off the lot. It less important to spend time to get extra 5% then sell two cars quicker. No offence but it's a good analogy.

depends on the 'salesperson' (i.e. recruiter). third party recruiters run the gamut, and in my experience if you work with a good one they'll help you negotiate higher, provided you make their job easier (fast communications, transparent, etc.)
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