Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by cableshaft » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 2:16 PM UTC

Not me. I'd rent there for a short-term, but not live there. Its time is numbered, climate change will make it borderline unlivable (if nothing else, because it'll most likely be underwater by 2050, but also hurricanes and the heat will just get worse).

If you didn't know, the stone around Miami is extremely porous limestone from compressed coral reefs and water from the ocean creeps in, including into their drinking water reservoirs[1], and the city already spends hundreds of millions of dollars[2] on various projects to try to fight against the inevitable.

EDIT: Since I wrote this, by chance I encountered news that an apartment building partially collapsed in Miami-Dade county this morning[3]. At least one death and still 51 people unaccounted for, unfortunately. There's probably going to be more of this over the coming years.

[1]https://www.businessinsider.com/miami-floods-sea-level-rise-...

[2]https://time.com/4932565/hurricane-irma-miami-beach/

[3]https://www.dw.com/en/florida-apartment-building-in-miami-ar...

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by mattbrewsbytes » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 2:35 PM UTC

decafninja wrote: post #8

As a NYer, I never understood why so many people from here retire to Florida. Yes the beaches are beautiful, but the weather is also scorching - and humid. And hurricanes. Maybe it's the cost? If I had to pick a warm weather retirement destination, Hawaii would be #1 on my list. Second would probably be SoCal somewhere. I guess both are more expensive than Florida.

Florida is one of several states with zero state income tax. If you retire there then you will pay less taxes when withdrawing from retirement accounts. I believe Texas, Arizona and Nevada also have zero state income tax.

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by the_only_law » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 2:47 PM UTC

Nah, I’m currently in Florida (albeit a different part) and I’ll probably be leaving in a few years.

The job market feels extremely disappointing for the size of the state, economically and population wise.

Miami in general feels like a city way past it’s cultural prime. Sure one or two companies may be talking about going out there, but every time I try to do some searching, I’d be better off going to some other state. Within the south, Raleigh is probably a much better options and I’d even go back to Atlanta before Miami.

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by ceilingcorner » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 3:23 PM UTC

decafninja wrote: post #8

As a NYer, I never understood why so many people from here retire to Florida. Yes the beaches are beautiful, but the weather is also scorching - and humid. And hurricanes. Maybe it's the cost? If I had to pick a warm weather retirement destination, Hawaii would be #1 on my list. Second would probably be SoCal somewhere. I guess both are more expensive than Florida.

Hawaii is an island in the middle of the ocean. Florida is a quick plane right from anywhere on the East Coast and a reasonable amount of time from Europe. It also happens to be filled with other NYC retirees. People care about people.

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by gaws » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 3:53 PM UTC

> Recently my whole twitter feed is filled with ppl announcing moving to Miami from SF.

Ask yourself: Are they going there for work or early retirement?

> What's going on? Is this a "mass migration"? Something ideological? A movement?

None of the above. Miami is not, and will never be, the new technological haven many people preach it to be.

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by LUmBULtERA » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:17 PM UTC

I don't know a single person who moved to Miami this last year, or ever actually. I have known some people who moved away from there. I don't think anything is going on, there is no "mass migration". I don't see this effecting tech or innovation anywhere.

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by slackernewz » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:31 PM UTC

When I'm on Twitter it sounds like that, but when I hang out with people in real life, no one ever mentions Miami at all. I do however know a lot of people personally who moved to Austin.

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by mbalex99 » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:32 PM UTC

I moved to Miami from San Francisco in February. The reason wasn’t because of tech. I couldn’t deal with rising crime and how closed the city was. It was April when a ton more people started flocking to Miami for conferences and events.

A lot of people are here short term. Yes some bought property but it’s certainly not everyone.

Miami feels really well run in comparison to San Francisco. Walking around, I see human feces, needles, dead bodies through overdose. It’s a very clean city, lots of places to buy or rent, very health conscious and there’s a lot of sun!

My major gripe is that it’s kind of hard to walk and find food at the scale of inner Richmond or in Brooklyn. I actually have yet to meet any software engineers like me in the city which kind of sucks. I don’t have anything in common with the e-commerce and crypto people in the city.

I’m not in love with it. But it does the job for me right now given that the city does feel like the better place to be given COVID restrictions. Ultimately I’d love to be in the west coast again due to how much I went backpacking.

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by bluu00 » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 6:21 PM UTC

mbalex99 wrote: post #18

I moved to Miami from San Francisco in February. The reason wasn’t because of tech. I couldn’t deal with rising crime and how closed the city was. It was April when a ton more people started flocking to Miami for conferences and events. A lot of people are here short term. Yes some bought property but it’s certainly not everyone. Miami feels really well run in comparison to San Francisco. Walking around, I see human…

> Walking around, I see human feces, needles, dead bodies through overdose.

wtf? that's not the kind of picture i wish to imagine while talking of SF

Re: Ask HN: Is Everyone Moving to Miami?

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Post by decafninja » Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 6:28 PM UTC

mbalex99 wrote: post #18

I moved to Miami from San Francisco in February. The reason wasn’t because of tech. I couldn’t deal with rising crime and how closed the city was. It was April when a ton more people started flocking to Miami for conferences and events. A lot of people are here short term. Yes some bought property but it’s certainly not everyone. Miami feels really well run in comparison to San Francisco. Walking around, I see human…

Is Miami becoming a crypto trader hub? Also what do you mean by e-commerce? Lots of e-commerce sellers holding shop there?