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Re: Ask HN: Can Salesforce be a long term career?

#11
The field of web dev is so vast and nebulous, the idea that you can't learn anything new or that you've reached a permanent plateau in your career doesn't add up.

Also, Salesforce development is a specialized field. What you're basically saying is that in the entire, vast field of web development you can learn anything new or find anything interesting to do, so you want to move into something much more specialized/narrow in focus?

Can you provide some more details on what you're currently doing?

Re: Ask HN: Can Salesforce be a long term career?

#12

I am the COO of Salesforce. Two of the top ten jobs on Indeed are Salesforce Admin and Salesforce Developer, and the jobs are distributed around the world. We have a ton of stories of folks transitioning into the ecosystem and developing an extremely successful career. Notably, our certifications are freely available at https://www.trailhead.com/ . You can get started, learn, and get credentials for free. It is a gre…

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Re: Ask HN: Can Salesforce be a long term career?

#13
I've been doing work in Salesforce for the last 7 years in two different positions. Both are smaller companies in the Midwest (smallish city of ~100k if you include neighboring towns). I know of at least one other company in the area that is built on Salesforce. It's not the most exciting work in the world, but it's work that I know is providing value for the companies and people I work for/with.

Pros: Salesforce abstracts a lot of the DevOps/database work that I don't have a lot of experience with and lets me focus on building the applications we need. Much of my current work is building out Lightning Web components, which is your basic JavaScript web development work built on top of some pre-existing components provided by Salesforce. There is a ton of documentation and it's easy to pick up on things you need to learn.

Cons: Salesforce has a lot of quirks to it that you'll become familiar with as you get into it. Build/test/deploy cycles are slower than normal, but they are working on tools to make that experience better. In some ways, their focus on no-code is nice and it's really easy to get simple things done. In some cases though, it feels easier just to write code to get things done, especially if you suspect the feature you're working on will get more complicated over time.

All in all I'm not sorry for getting into this space. I've had enough variety in my jobs that I've done some work outside of Salesforce and I don't feel pigeon-holed. The Salesforce ecosystem seems to be growing and their is a lot of work available. I'm in my mid-40s so if I can get steady work over the next 10-15 years with decent pay, I'll be more than happy continuing work in this space.

FYI: I haven't bothered with any paid certifications though I do complete Trailheads when I need to learn something new as a way to both learn things and provide a signal to potential future employers that I know what I'm doing.

Re: Ask HN: Can Salesforce be a long term career?

#15
Remember that at any time:

- Salesforce could announce a massive change in priorities.

- Salesforce could be bought by a competitor.

- Salesforce could be [more slowly] replaced by a competitor.

The odds of any of these things happening in the next year are probably quite low. The odds of something like this happening in the next ten years is pretty high.

I can't speak to whether the work is interesting or not -- I would assume that's it's not much different from any other general business programming jobs -- but IMHO, having general skills and being able to learn new techniques is key to having a long-term career in IT.

Re: Ask HN: Can Salesforce be a long term career?

#16
We are integrating Salesforce at my company and I am currently leading a large portion of that integration. Salesforce dominates the CRM market. Unless there is some sort catastrophic event that tarnishes their reputation, they will be around for quite awhile. Their system is incredibly complex and can be somewhat difficult to reason about. I believe if you specialized in Salesforce development or administration you can most definitely make a long term career out of it. Consequently, you run the risk that of becoming highly specialized which may make you less marketable for non-Salesforce related positions. Companies are going to spend countless engineering hours and bags of money to integrate Salesforce which will ultimately vendor lock them for an extended period of time. This is great for current and future Salesforce developers because it will add stability to their job market. I don't view certifications as a red flag but there are people out there that look down on people with certifications. That is a personal problem IMO.

Re: Ask HN: Can Salesforce be a long term career?

#17

I am the COO of Salesforce. Two of the top ten jobs on Indeed are Salesforce Admin and Salesforce Developer, and the jobs are distributed around the world. We have a ton of stories of folks transitioning into the ecosystem and developing an extremely successful career. Notably, our certifications are freely available at https://www.trailhead.com/ . You can get started, learn, and get credentials for free. It is a gre…

Seriously impressed by your responsiveness here.

Re: Ask HN: Can Salesforce be a long term career?

#18
I’m on financial side - the market is good for sales force admins and devs - partly because you can add a fair Bit of business process type items into the package. The codes a bit ugly but results seem to make clients happy and the finance people are willing to write the reasonable bucks

Re: Ask HN: Can Salesforce be a long term career?

#19
Yes. There's good money in it, the certifications keep the quality good and are reasonably doable. You can transition out once you get some experience with major clients; I did Siebel for years and whilst many of my colleagues jumped to Salesforce I transitioned into the heady but well paid world of enterprise architecture.

Re: Ask HN: Can Salesforce be a long term career?

#20
I have found that any deep specialization that is too detached from foundational programming or systems tends to be a non-transferrable skill. Salesforce sounds kinda like that.

Can you make solid money doing it? Well sure. That's not really the question, from what I read of your question. The question is if I spend n years doing this, when n is greater than 10 will I have learned anything that lets me step into the next thing.

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