Hey Jon, don't see an email in profile. Also any reason you can't outsource the technical development?
You don't have one yourself lol
Ask HN: Looking for an engineer/developer "life partner"
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#12Thanks for the thoughts everyone. A few responses all around...
DStein2: I've been given repeated and direct advise not to pursue funding without a functioning prototype; most important reason is b/c terms are never favorable.
I should add that quite a few of the folks we've talked to have been very interested, it's been more that the fit really hasn't quite been right on both sides yet.
And if I've learned anything from the engineers, it's that this game is about 5% idea/95% follow-through.
Steven: I can't really dive into this but it's just not as simple as you think. Trust me, I wish it were, but employee NDAs and such are major hurdles.
Also, I've not ruled out getting a prototype done, but of of the engineers I've talked to (>15) most said they would prefer to be involved from the beginning as opposed to inherit a prototype.
Hoodoof: I am definitely planning to learn as much as I can, and would like to develop the skills to build a prototype, at least.
I was just pointing out that I have a respect for the experience developers have. Yes, I think I have a strong work ethic, but that's quite different than being adamant I'll be able to out program more experienced people.
Re: Ask HN: Looking for an engineer/developer "life partner"
#13Thanks for the thoughts everyone. A few responses all around... DStein2: I've been given repeated and direct advise not to pursue funding without a functioning prototype; most important reason is b/c terms are never favorable. I should add that quite a few of the folks we've talked to have been very interested, it's been more that the fit really hasn't quite been right on both sides yet. And if I've learned anything…
The problem is you shouldn't even care about NDAs regarding outsourcing your prototype. It's about as bad as requiring an NDA to disclose your idea to potential cofounders. In the mass majority of cases, no one cares and if you outsource overseas, I don't see a high correlation with people jacking your idea to outrun you in building your startup. I think you're going about it the wrong way. The likelihood of someone pulling a "social network zuck" on you, is very unlikely, especially for outsourcing a prototype.
As for possibly getting a prototype done, I don't understand the comment here. If you outsource the work, you pay X and they code Y and you guys do the exchange. There's no inheriting or whatever you're referring to. Sounds more like you're trying to recruit employees or something than to purely just get the prototype finished.
Re: Ask HN: Looking for an engineer/developer "life partner"
#14Jon, embrace your weakness by conquering it, not by giving up on it. DIY.
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#15I'm curious, I'd like to hear the idea :)
You mix 'I' and 'we'...which is it?
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#16I'm curious, I'd like to hear the idea :) You mix 'I' and 'we'...which is it?
Most people use it interchangeably even if it's just them. Chances are it's just him.
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#17Thanks for the thoughts everyone. A few responses all around... DStein2: I've been given repeated and direct advise not to pursue funding without a functioning prototype; most important reason is b/c terms are never favorable. I should add that quite a few of the folks we've talked to have been very interested, it's been more that the fit really hasn't quite been right on both sides yet. And if I've learned anything…
The problem is you shouldn't even care about NDAs regarding outsourcing your prototype. It's about as bad as requiring an NDA to disclose your idea to potential cofounders. In the mass majority of cases, no one cares and if you outsource overseas, I don't see a high correlation with people jacking your idea to outrun you in building your startup. I think you're going about it the wrong way. The likelihood of someone…
Steven, no need to be so antagonistic. The NDAs are between Google & its employees.
I am not worried about losing my idea. I am not 100% focused on getting a prototype done. I want to find a real partner to work with on my current concept or any others.
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#18I'm curious, I'd like to hear the idea :) You mix 'I' and 'we'...which is it?
Most people use it interchangeably even if it's just them. Chances are it's just him.
Latch: shoot me an e-mail and I'm happy to share plenty.
The "I" and "we" is a little tricky. Someone else is involved with the current concept, but his role really comes into play farther down the road.
The purpose of my post was regarding a partner, not just with this concept, but with many opportunities going forward. In that sense, it's an "I."
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is you shouldn't even care about NDAs regarding outsourcing your prototype. It's about as bad as requiring an NDA to disclose your idea to potential cofounders. In the mass majority of cases, no one cares and if you outsource overseas, I don't see a high correlation with people jacking your idea to outrun you in building your startup. I think you're going about it the wrong way. The likelihood of someone…
Steven, no need to be so antagonistic. The NDAs are between Google & its employees. I am not worried about losing my idea. I am not 100% focused on getting a prototype done. I want to find a real partner to work with on my current concept or any others.
Wasn't trying to be antagonistic. Was addressing something that comes up very often. You can't blame me for thinking so at the sight of stating NDA. That said, NDA between companies and employees are more in reference to what the company does. I can't imagine it would restrict you from leaving to pursue your own idea with a fellow employee. But then again, I don't work for Google so I don't know what they would require you to sign.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Steven, no need to be so antagonistic. The NDAs are between Google & its employees. I am not worried about losing my idea. I am not 100% focused on getting a prototype done. I want to find a real partner to work with on my current concept or any others.
Wasn't trying to be antagonistic. Was addressing something that comes up very often. You can't blame me for thinking so at the sight of stating NDA. That said, NDA between companies and employees are more in reference to what the company does. I can't imagine it would restrict you from leaving to pursue your own idea with a fellow employee. But then again, I don't work for Google so I don't know what they would requi…
>>"I don't know what they would require you to sign"
Our lives away, basically.