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Ask HN: Are Raspberry Pi devices free of hardware spyware (Intel ME/AMD PSP)?

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Re: Ask HN: Are Raspberry Pi devices free of hardware spyware (Intel ME/AMD PSP)?

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Remember that the RPi SoC isn't primarily ARM. There's a multistage process to boot the VPU/GPU which in turn runs the ARM as a sort of child.

Is that boot process closed source?

Yes - there are people who've figured out their own boot processes, but everyone really uses the default Broadcom one.

Re: Ask HN: Are Raspberry Pi devices free of hardware spyware (Intel ME/AMD PSP)?

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Thats a really good question. My money is on NO.

Is there a way to check it out?

Oh and here is a crazy story:

The only group to lit stand up to the installation of CARNIVORE in their DCs at the time was Earthlink.com - who said NO to the install of that system....

But not because they were "standing up"

They developed their OWN spying system and were logging and spying on all their customers........

And who owned Earthink?

The mormons.....

MASSIVE EDIT]

It wasnt the mormons who owned earthlink it was the scientologists. and THATS why they were monitoring all - because they were after all the ClamBake people... I forgot.

And ironically/coincidentally, who does the NSA really like to hire?

Mormons!

And who is keeping DNA tracks on Ancetry?

The mormons

And who in the USa has one of the largest data vaults?

The mormons.....

Spying is a WEIRD world.

Everything is known, but the saddest part: the Five Eyes all share it.

Re: Ask HN: Are Raspberry Pi devices free of hardware spyware (Intel ME/AMD PSP)?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK - so I don't know - but here is why I said NO: I've worked in the industry since 1997, with one of my first experiences in 1997 with a double-digit CCIE cracking a cisco 3640 who told me how the NSA required them to place back-doors into all cisco devices - and he was under NDA, but he told me anyway... Then working at intel... then working with Mirantis+intel+redhat to build out "secure computing clouds" -- and s…

What do you think about System76 and Purism hardware? Is there any hope in there? At least hardware-wise?

Cant comment on Purism...

System76 - I have many of their laptops (none of their own machines) - but they are/were white-labeled machines...

But the positive thing I can say abt system76 - you got a LOT for bang-for-buck... oddly I like HP again, and MSI.

Re: Ask HN: Are Raspberry Pi devices free of hardware spyware (Intel ME/AMD PSP)?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you think about System76 and Purism hardware? Is there any hope in there? At least hardware-wise?

Cant comment on Purism... System76 - I have many of their laptops (none of their own machines) - but they are/were white-labeled machines... But the positive thing I can say abt system76 - you got a LOT for bang-for-buck... oddly I like HP again, and MSI.

What hardware would then you use to get a secure environment? Is there something better that system76? Orange Pi?

What do the big players use to avoid loosing secrets?

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