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Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

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Learning to program will give you resilience. As a founder you are "the last resort" of the project. You will find yourself in this scenario many times and it's better to not depend on anyone. When it comes to starting up, resilience and determination are much more important skills than outstanding programming skills. Or at least that's what experience has taught many of us. Nowadays you can do a lot with few resourc…

As a founder you are "the last resort" of the project. You will find yourself in this scenario many times and it's better to not depend on anyone.

So glad you said this. Applies to other kinds of ventures, not just software.

I learned this lesson the hard way in my first venture. Co-founder flaked, left me swinging in the wind.

Vowed to start something new on my own as a solo founder where I could at least prototype and iterate early versions AND revenue was coming in the door from the beginning. This enabled me to hand off things that tested well to contractors and grow that way. Goes against YC "you must have a co-founder" dogma but it works.

Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

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I once read that if you open a restaurant and know nothing about running a kitchen then the cooks own the restaurant.

With tech it's similar. You could supervise the end result but there are so many decisions taken "in the kitchen" that will have an impact in the product. Maybe 6 months from now you will want to implement a feature and because the developer decided to use XYZ it's not feasible to do it and you have to rewrite that from scratch.

I'm not saying all founders should be technical, but at least one should be. It's a software company after all.

Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

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It looks like a win-win i.e. you develop a product and also develop technical competency however it is not, my suggestion is to keep them separate, you can always delve deeper into technology if you wish to do so. Learning technology will just put additional constraint on what you can deliver and when you can deliver your product. Decide one thing whether it is developing product or tech competence and give it 100%. So for example if you decide to go for product than take the most efficient path to develop it either by using no-code tools or using laravel saas template or whatever language template that would make your job easier to get the product out. If you decide to go for tech, to maximize your chance of getting hired you should go for leet code and associated sites to make sure that you are able to clear the interview, there are countless tales of technically competent people not able to clear the interview because the interview process in industry is rigged in favor of leet code type interviews.

Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

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If you feel learning to code would be a worthwhile end in itself, sure build it yourself. Just recognize it'll take much longer and you may have to scrap it when you bring someone more technical on.

Otherwise you should outsource the absolute minimum necessary to prove the idea has legs in the market and use that to attract a technical cofounder.

Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

#15
Register domain, build nice looking landing page claiming what you are working on, harvest emails and start talking to these people.

Only proceed if there is some kind of traction.

I have never done this myself, but I have seen people claiming this here on HN.

Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

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post #5

There is an explosion of no-code tools these days - companies have gotten paying customers and become profitable without writing a single line of code. I'd try making a PoC and seeing if you can find interested customers.

Glad someone mentioned this. Tools like Bubble.io can help a relatively non-technical person get a MVP up in a matter of weeks. It’s particularly useful for any kind of CRUD app (which most SaaS apps are at their core).

As a bonus, using these no code tools forces you to learn how to architect an application at a high-level, which can be useful if you choose to learn how to code “for real” someday.

Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

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Hi I am actually on the same journey as yourself though I am engineer from a different domain. This has been stated so many times here on HN but I will repeat myself again. Please ensure that you are solving a problem that exists. It could be a problem that you face in your own domain or a persistent friend that a friend has. Recently I phoned around 50 coffee shops that run on Shopify to see if they have a problem that needs solving. Talk to your customers and know them inside out. Know where they hang out and devise a plan to reach them.once you know your customers and where to find your first 10 you can then apply the frameworks presented by lefstathiou and others to go about building something either solo or with a co-founder. Email: vsap78 at gmaildotcom

Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

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I’m a CTO in a 20 man startup and have been through the ringer on several different projects through my career.

This is a difficult situation as positive founders that you can build a company with are hard to come by (been there) and outsourcing is a minefield. I would suggest not to engage with an offshore outsourcing company, I have had terrible experiences here (they may tell u they are under NDA so cannot share any of their ‘successful’ projects, of which there are probably none), and if they know you don’t know tech, it’s a free for all. The other issue is they will try to bleed you up front and most startups are based on iteration, but you will probably have no cash left to incorporate the feedback into another version. Also, the quality will be terrible and they will not care about your project. What could Work, to get you started, is to find a single engineer you can work with (and pay) to get an MVP up and running, this could be a young guy or an off shore engineer but someone who will to work with you. This can keep your costs reasonable. The only issue here is that you have to think about how to move that MVP into a real product so you are really kicking the can down the road, but this can get you started.

In summary, avoid out sourcing like the corona virus.

Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

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I’m a CTO in a 20 man startup and have been through the ringer on several different projects through my career. This is a difficult situation as positive founders that you can build a company with are hard to come by (been there) and outsourcing is a minefield. I would suggest not to engage with an offshore outsourcing company, I have had terrible experiences here (they may tell u they are under NDA so cannot share a…

Your comment comes off as xenophobic. I know it's acceptable in tech circle to talk this way, but not cool.

Re: Ask HN: Starting a SaaS business as non-technical founder

#20
I co-founded a startup that had a technically-solid product that people swore they wanted. It failed. I've also worked for a number of successful startups. And I've consulted for startups that succeeded, and ones that sank without a trace.

If there's any pattern I can see with the non-technical founders, it's that some knowledge of coding is certainly nice, if only so the founders can talk to the actual coders. But coding's not the most important thing. The two most important things for a non-technical founder are (1) understanding their market, and (2) closing deals.

Steve Blank (a respected startup expert) proposed a way to prove that you can do (1) and (2): Collect non-binding letters of intent from future customers. These letters should say something like "If you can produce software that does X, Y and Z acceptably well, we would would like to negotiate a contract with you for $1000/month." (See Blank's classic "Four Steps to the Epiphany" for more details.)

If you can collect 10 of those letters, then you should have no problem finding a technical co-founder, and you'll be bringing strong assets to the table.

(The details might be different for your startup. Maybe your product is only worth $200/month, or whatever. But the key point is that you can go talk to customers and close deals.)

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