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Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

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Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#11
I don`t watch these videos for entertainment, but this person has gained a little notoriety for this gig he started after his grandmother with dementia was scammed.

https://kitboga.com/

I was left agasp by some of the language (some is NSFW) and techniques ised by the scammers, but you would be the grandmother with dementia (non-technical user) vs someone who will say/do anything for money.

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#12
"The Jargon File" might be a good place to start. From there, maybe read one of The Cathedral and the Bazaar, The Soul of a New Machine, or Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution.

I read Fire in the Valley when I was young and it impacted me, although there might be a better book that's similar. I might also recommend something by Jaron Lanier or Stallman if you don't might being a little political.

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#14
I don't think there is a hacker mindset. We don't all have the same experiences or motivations for why we build, tinker, break, and fix. We just all happen to do that stuff. Some of the most impressive "hackers" I've ever met were old HAM radio enthusiasts with thick country accents who live in the middle of nowhere. Those folks have almost nothing in common with the extremely educated liberal developers in SF. But both groups collect knowledge and apply it in the real world in creative ways.

So being a hacker is a practice, and in some cases it's a lifestyle (when you orient your life around hacking). But it's not a mindset. Some folks are compulsive hackers, some are methodical, some are opportunistic, others are hackers out of necessity - but they're all united by what they do, not how they think.

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#15
The single most important thing that made me understand the hacker mindset as a teenager was the Jargon File. And the publications and conference videos of the Chaos Computer Club also had a great influence on me, as well as Clifford Stoll's The Cuckoo's Egg.

Read books by hackers, watch conference talks. And ofc get to know hackers, go to hack spaces. Keep an open mind and be curious. That's a good starting point to see how hacker culture really is. It's mostly about unorthodox curiosity and having fun with machines and systems. Think of children playing with toys, who grew up and never stopped playing with toys.

Don't waste your time on pop culture presentations of hackers, like movies or reading articles about "great" hacks or hackers, it's misleading and not going to transform your mind to think like a hacker in any way.

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#16
Most technical people you work with, even in early startups, will not be "hackers" in any way, shape or form. Hacking doesn't usually equate to doing things that tend to make businesses lots of money. Sometimes it does, but not usually.

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#17

I don't think there is a hacker mindset. We don't all have the same experiences or motivations for why we build, tinker, break, and fix. We just all happen to do that stuff. Some of the most impressive "hackers" I've ever met were old HAM radio enthusiasts with thick country accents who live in the middle of nowhere. Those folks have almost nothing in common with the extremely educated liberal developers in SF. But b…

> But both groups collect knowledge and apply it in the real world in creative ways.

so maybe use your hacker mindset to deduce this is the mindset then?

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#19
A lot of us technical folks think the "hacker mindset" is an unfortunate, childlike simplification of what we do. I personally prefer solid engineering to "hacking".

I strongly encourage you to make your non-technical folks aware of good engineering practices, instead of this "everyone needs to learn to code and have special snowflake hacker skills" mindset that has so permeated the industry.

Re: Ask HN: Best resources for non-technical founders to understand hacker mindset?

#20

Most technical people you work with, even in early startups, will not be "hackers" in any way, shape or form. Hacking doesn't usually equate to doing things that tend to make businesses lots of money. Sometimes it does, but not usually.

Yep, I think hacking became kind of a buzzword in the new economy. Facebook deciding to name their corporate grounds to "1 Hacker Way" is such an example of how tech companies have appropiated the term to mean something that doesn't really have anything to do with the hacker mindest. They just think it's cool and it attracts young talents. It's part of their brand marketing and hiring strategy.

The only connection between Facebook and hacking I can think of is that their software may have relied on "dirty hacks" and crutches in the past to make it work.

Hacker culture by nature is very anti-corporate, anarchistic and against subordinating everything under the dictatorship of profit maximization.

If the OP thinks "hacker mindest" equals being on a path to create the next big app or service, you are being mislead big time.

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