Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by onion2k » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 12:55 PM UTC

founderling wrote: post #6

onion2k wrote: post #4

When will stores be open again, when will we do meetups again, when will we be able to travel again? Around 10 weeks for stores and meetups, longer for travel depending on the destination. However, Covid-19 will likely be a lesson in single point of failure, supply chain dependency, and failure planning. To that end things will take decades to go back to the way they were. Companies will not be willing to accept mass…

Interesting, that you say longer for travel. To what extend is travel restricted at the moment? What happens when someone from - say - Germany flies to the UK? As far as I can see, flights can still be booked.

What happens when someone from - say - Germany flies to the UK?

In that case I think it's still allowed, but there are a lot of entry bans and visa restrictions in place (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_restrictions_related_to...) that probably won't be lifted for a long time.

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by bsenftner » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 12:57 PM UTC

We need a vaccine before any: live concerts, bars, beaches, or other mass social gatherings can be resumed. That could be a year or more.

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 1:08 PM UTC

mrfusion wrote: post #8

jjgreen wrote: post #2

12-18 months

I’m not waiting 18 months to see my Abuela, sir. She only has a few years left.

I've got some bad news for you: until you have been vaccinated for COVID-19 (early 2021 soonest) or have had it and fully recovered and then waited a bit, it would be a bad idea for you to travel to see an elderly relative. It would be selfish and irresponsible to do that.

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by janbernhart » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 1:08 PM UTC

onion2k wrote: post #10

stephenr wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For some things, like remote working, I don't think we'll ever go back. This could go two ways: (a) people realise that remote working is very doable, because they managed at short notice, during a crisis, and thus it will increase. (b) people will believe that remote work is not doable, because they didn't manage at short notice, during a crisis, and thus it will not increase. I would be very surprised if anyone w…

Given the potential cost savings for both businesses and individuals there is already an incentive to do it; this situation will force companies to make the effort and try. I'd be surprised if there are many companies that get to the end of, say, 12 weeks of quarantine and haven't figured out how to make it work at least to some extent, or at least worked out some of the things that block it so they can start working…

There's a huge difference between everyone working remotely, and some. If a big chunks of your direct colleagues are in the office, the remote people will miss out on information, which will draw them to the office.

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 1:09 PM UTC

mrfusion wrote: post #9

How long will millions of people accept being on house arrest?

If "millions of people" stop accepting house arrest tomorrow, then things won't "get back to normal", things will become even further from normal.

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by bloodorange » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 1:12 PM UTC

It might also help to consider that the current circumstances are a shock to the world (including the economy) and whatever evolves as the new "normal" once everything settles down, is unlikely to be the same as before.

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by aloisdg » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 1:15 PM UTC

mrfusion wrote: post #8

jjgreen wrote: post #2

12-18 months

I’m not waiting 18 months to see my Abuela, sir. She only has a few years left.

If your grandmother is this old and you go see her before the end of the quarantine, she may only has a few month left. You want to see her? Teach her how to use a video conferencing tool.

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by sfusato » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 1:16 PM UTC

Towards the end of this year, early next year. But nothing will be like before in any case.

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by hither2 » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 1:17 PM UTC

A few weeks. This is an over-reaction.

The push for suppressing entire populations for months and years are coming from those that want to dis-empower these populations the rest of the time.

If by "normal" you mean the neo-liberal/neo-marxist agenda "progressing"... that is increasingly unlikely

Re: Ask HN: When do you expect life will get back to “normal”?

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 01, 2020, 1:18 PM UTC

janbernhart wrote: post #14

onion2k wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the potential cost savings for both businesses and individuals there is already an incentive to do it; this situation will force companies to make the effort and try. I'd be surprised if there are many companies that get to the end of, say, 12 weeks of quarantine and haven't figured out how to make it work at least to some extent, or at least worked out some of the things that block it so they can start working…

There's a huge difference between everyone working remotely, and some. If a big chunks of your direct colleagues are in the office, the remote people will miss out on information, which will draw them to the office.

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