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Re: Ask HN: Should I Ask for Promotion?

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Doing lots of your current job != exhibiting you will succeed at the sorts of tasks if you were promoted, which is why if you are great at a certain job you can get stuck doing it, especially if you're a bit understaffed which I guess you are if you're doing a ton of extra work to keep up.

Can you pick up / start doing work that'd make it clearer you could be a leader (assuming that's what the next step looks like) without dropping the ball?

Re: Ask HN: Should I Ask for Promotion?

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In my experience, you don't get what you don't ask for . In other words, your work/performance rarely "speaks" for itself. If you believe your work is representative of a promotion, then you should absolutely talk to your boss about it. Even if they say "no", you can follow up with "what do I need to get there?" and demonstrate a willingness to grow and level up in the organization. That can kickstart a process where…

Great piece of advice. I like the "don't ask, tell". The reason I got a little disappointed in "asking" is that in previous 2 attempts the promotion got delayed because of stupid reorgs, the managers changed. I took it upon me to build the case again. That took time (at lease a year), and eventually I thought maybe it makes no sense, rather just wait till someone realizes. But I get your point. Thank you :)

Piggybacking on this (slight point on semantics but still important in terms of framing the discussion)

Don't tell them, SHOW them. The advice about displaying all of those things, almost like metrics or hitting a benchmarks is key.

There is some obvious psychology at play here - for some bosses it might be more effective to present everything in one fell swoop so you build an ironclad case with no room to argue. Another might be to either build up this proof over a course of a few weeks and mention another point and another project. With deeply held beliefs, it takes time to change one's mind and seems like a rare thing to convert someone instantly. (The question is here, how deeply does the boss believe OP does NOT deserve a promotion)

Another critical point is the company structure and finance. Is there bureaucracy the limiting fact and there simply isn't an open position? Or is the company small enough they can simply make one? To me this would be the biggest obstacle to find a way around/through.

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