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Re: Ask HN: Paying for University as an undocumented student

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Post by idontlikebacon »

hugh3 wrote: post #4
idontlikebacon wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not as simple as that, man. I'm completely American, but I'm missing a piece of bureaucracy that a broken immigration system won't give me. I don't speak Arabic, I have no memories of Saudi Arabia, and I thought I was American for a long time. I didn't commit a crime on purpose, and worse there's no way to atone for it except for reform or leaving and being barred from my home country. I know I can leave, but I want…

Well, life is tough. Don't come asking me for advice on how to break the law.

I'm surprised you got 2 up votes; I came to the HN community not looking for advice on how to break the law or get a condescending response from some internet tough guy.

I'm asking for advice on how I could pay for college. That is it. I already realize I've unintentionally broke the law and I've been reminded often enough.

Re: Ask HN: Paying for University as an undocumented student

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Post by queensnake »

hugh3 wrote: post #2

If you're not legally entitled to be in the US, then get the fuck out of the US.

How broken is our system that someone can manage to stay 16+ years without getting caught. I mean really, the laws and policies need to be adjusted to make that impossible.

Re: Ask HN: Paying for University as an undocumented student

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Post by queensnake »

ricaurte wrote: post #10
hugh3 wrote: post #2

If you're not legally entitled to be in the US, then get the fuck out of the US.

If a 2 year-old is mature enough to be capable of illegally overstaying a visa on their own free will and understand the consequences, then 3 year-olds should be able to vote and 4 year-olds should be able to go to jail for a lifetime. He was 2. He shouldn't pay for a crime his parents committed.

That's called 'being in a state of sin'. He's innocent until he reaches some certain age, and then he's not. His crime is continual until he stops committing it.

Re: Ask HN: Paying for University as an undocumented student

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Post by queensnake »

idontlikebacon wrote: post #11
hugh3 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, life is tough. Don't come asking me for advice on how to break the law.

I'm surprised you got 2 up votes; I came to the HN community not looking for advice on how to break the law or get a condescending response from some internet tough guy. I'm asking for advice on how I could pay for college. That is it. I already realize I've unintentionally broke the law and I've been reminded often enough.

Then fix it - stop breaking the law.

> I came to the HN community not looking for advice on how to break the law or get a condescending response from some internet tough guy.

I know, don't you hate that? I came up to this girl just wanting sex, not to get peppersprayed and called a rapist.

Re: Ask HN: Paying for University as an undocumented student

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Post by idontlikebacon »

queensnake wrote: post #12
hugh3 wrote: post #2

If you're not legally entitled to be in the US, then get the fuck out of the US.

How broken is our system that someone can manage to stay 16+ years without getting caught. I mean really, the laws and policies need to be adjusted to make that impossible.

I think it's worse that I can't earn my citizenship. The immigration system has neglected undocumented students: a very specific niche of illegals.

I'm completely American and you'd never guess that I'm illegal unless I told you (the stigma is all illegals speak broken English and are some sort of Latino, which I'm not.)

Re: Ask HN: Paying for University as an undocumented student

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Post by idontlikebacon »

idontlikebacon wrote: post #11
hugh3 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, life is tough. Don't come asking me for advice on how to break the law.

I'm surprised you got 2 up votes; I came to the HN community not looking for advice on how to break the law or get a condescending response from some internet tough guy. I'm asking for advice on how I could pay for college. That is it. I already realize I've unintentionally broke the law and I've been reminded often enough.

Queen, I'm here to talk about paying out of state tuition, not what I should do about my status.

Read the edit in the post. I cannot change my status with an overstayed visa, so it's not a matter of choice or lack of will. I didn't come to HN to be lynched.

Re: Ask HN: Paying for University as an undocumented student

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Post by queensnake »

idontlikebacon wrote: post #15
queensnake wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How broken is our system that someone can manage to stay 16+ years without getting caught. I mean really, the laws and policies need to be adjusted to make that impossible.

I think it's worse that I can't earn my citizenship. The immigration system has neglected undocumented students: a very specific niche of illegals. I'm completely American and you'd never guess that I'm illegal unless I told you (the stigma is all illegals speak broken English and are some sort of Latino, which I'm not.)

Your parents didn't do a good job taking care of you. Sucks for you.

Re: Ask HN: Paying for University as an undocumented student

#18

Post by anigbrowl »

queensnake wrote: post #13
ricaurte wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a 2 year-old is mature enough to be capable of illegally overstaying a visa on their own free will and understand the consequences, then 3 year-olds should be able to vote and 4 year-olds should be able to go to jail for a lifetime. He was 2. He shouldn't pay for a crime his parents committed.

That's called 'being in a state of sin'. He's innocent until he reaches some certain age, and then he's not. His crime is continual until he stops committing it.

Interesting theory you have there.

Re: Ask HN: Paying for University as an undocumented student

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Post by anigbrowl »

queensnake wrote: post #12
hugh3 wrote: post #2

If you're not legally entitled to be in the US, then get the fuck out of the US.

How broken is our system that someone can manage to stay 16+ years without getting caught. I mean really, the laws and policies need to be adjusted to make that impossible.

Theoretically, they already have. In practice the system stays seriously underfunded, possibly deliberately.
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