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Ask HN: DigitalOcean Destroyed All My Data, Any Legal Recourse?

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Re: Ask HN: DigitalOcean Destroyed All My Data, Any Legal Recourse?

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I am a bit skeptical of this account. Every time I have contacted DigitalOcean support they respond quickly usually within hours.

If this service was successful and profitable, I can't imagine waiting 5 weeks. I'd be in full nerd rage after 1/2 day of being down, and would be spinning up new servers on another provider.

Curious to see the full post though before jumping to more conclusions.

Re: Ask HN: DigitalOcean Destroyed All My Data, Any Legal Recourse?

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I am a bit skeptical of this account. Every time I have contacted DigitalOcean support they respond quickly usually within hours. If this service was successful and profitable, I can't imagine waiting 5 weeks. I'd be in full nerd rage after 1/2 day of being down, and would be spinning up new servers on another provider. Curious to see the full post though before jumping to more conclusions.

Agreed, I have contacted them before over the 2 years and always they responded quickly. They responded w/in 24hrs and said that someone from "security and trust" team would review and get back to me, and that response took 5 weeks. So I guess at the point they already destroyed your instances they assume they lost you as a customer and don't really care anymore to get back to you in a timely manner.

I did go into full nerd rage because I can't believe they would do this to a startup, I had the critical stuff running in <1hr on Linode, but took a day for everything to be rebuilt since I had to redo everything w/out access to backups or images.

Re: Ask HN: DigitalOcean Destroyed All My Data, Any Legal Recourse?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are great for startups because you can automate everything. You can delete everything and restore from 0 without needing manually run commands. Treat it as a temporary server that can disappear at any time, have automated backups and streaming database replication, then have an automated restore script that you test periodically. If the server goes down, restore somewhere else.

You have to have a data layer stored somewhere, are you saying to not store it on digital ocean? All this is a moot point when they destroy your instances and lock your account...

it's very poor customer service to be sure, not answering the ticket for 5 weeks is ridiculous, deleting your data sucks too, but you can get to a point where that is only a 30 minute inconvenience.

You store the data in a different place to DO, maybe at home or a cheap VPS somewhere else.

Re: Ask HN: DigitalOcean Destroyed All My Data, Any Legal Recourse?

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Talk to your lawyer. I’m not sure what the point of this post is. If it’s a PSA/warning, then you need to provide more proof. If you’re really seeking legal advice from an internet link aggregator, then the best advice you’ll get here is to talk to an actual lawyer.

Re: Ask HN: DigitalOcean Destroyed All My Data, Any Legal Recourse?

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Hey folks, I'm the CSO over at DigitalOcean (verification: https://keybase.io/custos). I'm going to look into this so we can figure out what happened here. Garland, I've temporarily set up an email alias which is my HN username [@] digitalocean.com - can you please shoot me some info?

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Hey folks, I'm the CSO over at DigitalOcean (verification: https://keybase.io/custos ). I'm going to look into this so we can figure out what happened here. Garland, I've temporarily set up an email alias which is my HN username [@] digitalocean.com - can you please shoot me some info?

Hi jofe. Without wanting you to comment on specific cases, as a customer paying you $1k per month stories like this terrify me, and it's not the first time I've seen something like this on HN. Can you definitively say whether this kind of thing has ever happened in the past and if it could happen again in the future?

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Hey folks, I'm the CSO over at DigitalOcean (verification: https://keybase.io/custos ). I'm going to look into this so we can figure out what happened here. Garland, I've temporarily set up an email alias which is my HN username [@] digitalocean.com - can you please shoot me some info?

Hi jofe. Without wanting you to comment on specific cases, as a customer paying you $1k per month stories like this terrify me, and it's not the first time I've seen something like this on HN. Can you definitively say whether this kind of thing has ever happened in the past and if it could happen again in the future?

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Re: Ask HN: DigitalOcean Destroyed All My Data, Any Legal Recourse?

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Hey folks, I'm the CSO over at DigitalOcean (verification: https://keybase.io/custos ). I'm going to look into this so we can figure out what happened here. Garland, I've temporarily set up an email alias which is my HN username [@] digitalocean.com - can you please shoot me some info?

Hi jofe. Without wanting you to comment on specific cases, as a customer paying you $1k per month stories like this terrify me, and it's not the first time I've seen something like this on HN. Can you definitively say whether this kind of thing has ever happened in the past and if it could happen again in the future?

Hey drcongo. Things like this occur at every cloud provider and I would never be comfortable promising you it's not a possibility. What I can tell you is that DO invests very heavily in trust and security (moreso than any company of our size that I've seen in my career). While we are far from perfect, we have a ton of controls in-place to ensure things like this don't happen, especially for customers with your type of track record.

Always happy to chat live with you, just open up a ticket or email me at the address above.

Re: Ask HN: DigitalOcean Destroyed All My Data, Any Legal Recourse?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi jofe. Without wanting you to comment on specific cases, as a customer paying you $1k per month stories like this terrify me, and it's not the first time I've seen something like this on HN. Can you definitively say whether this kind of thing has ever happened in the past and if it could happen again in the future?

Hey drcongo. Things like this occur at every cloud provider and I would never be comfortable promising you it's not a possibility. What I can tell you is that DO invests very heavily in trust and security (moreso than any company of our size that I've seen in my career). While we are far from perfect, we have a ton of controls in-place to ensure things like this don't happen, especially for customers with your type o…

That's a fair response, and I totally take threatofrain's point below too. I guess a better question would have been: is there anything as a customer I can do to prevent this?
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