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Re: Ask HN: How much savings did you have when you started?

#11
I really think you would be better to get the bare minimum product out the door, so you are not burning money while you are in product development. It takes dedication and a lot of nights and weekends, but it really is the best course of action to give yourself the best chances of success, with the funds that you have available.

This way you can dedicate the 18k to marketing once the product is completed. Contrary to the dream stories of everything going just right, not many products go grass roots or viral or whatever we are calling it these days. Many of them require good old fashion marketing to get the word out.

18k still does not give you a whole lot of runway especially if you have rent, electricity, food and the other life necessities. Postpone spending cash as long as possible and when you do make sure that that cash is going into something that will convert back into revenue.

If you don't understand marketing, start learning about it now. Buy some books read some blogs of industry leaders. You will have to become an effective marketer if you want your product to succeed. Contrary to popular belief even some great products don't sell themselves and require good marketing.

Re: Ask HN: How much savings did you have when you started?

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post #7

About 100k when I started Shopify, that meant I didn't have to take a salary until we had enough revenue 2 1/2 years later. Urg, don't do it like that.

You mean that you shouldnt use your own money?

I think he meant don't take 2 1/2 year to build up your revenues to the point where you can take a salary.

Re: Ask HN: How much savings did you have when you started?

#15
It fully depends what are you going to do and how much are you spending.

To get a baseline of what you need, calculate your living expensed plus do the worst-case calculations for a year.

Expect that your currently fully-working laptop and mobile phone are both going to break and you have to buy new ones. (sudden hw costs can be easily a couple of grands). Ditto for cars etc.

If you have a spouse, don't expect that working from home for a year is such a great idea, thus plan some money for renting a space.

Re: Ask HN: How much savings did you have when you started?

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean that you shouldnt use your own money?

I think he meant don't take 2 1/2 year to build up your revenues to the point where you can take a salary.

Does it also mean you might get too comfortable sitting on a large saving. So, do it with just enough cash to put up some pressure for early delivery. .

Re: Ask HN: How much savings did you have when you started?

#17
When I started my current company, I had a full time job. I've had a job on and off for most of the time I had the company. This (5 years in on this company) is the first year I've been full-time for the whole year, actually working on the company (rather than consulting, etc...)

If you've got eighteen grand, well, you are going to have to start making money quick. Living around here is pretty expensive. Be prepared to get a contract gig, because for most product businesses, ramping up as fast as you will have to ramp up with that runway will be quite difficult.

Re: Ask HN: How much savings did you have when you started?

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post #9

$18k - is not that much at all, and it will disappear fast. If you don't have any family to back you up with some reserve/emergency cash when you ran out, i would be really careful. You will use it within 5 - 7 months. Keep in mind, that just even for renting, you will have to give a first, deposit, (and sometimes last month). Assuming you are going to have roommates, if your rent is 1k (can be more, can be a bit les…

>My advice, is move to SF, find a job (hopefully one that will pay relocating costs), or maybe even a contracting one, and then develop your product on the side. When it is at least 60% done, and you have a bit more savings, go full swing into it.

overall, sound advice, I think.

Note: if you move to silicon valley rather than SF, you can get a room in the lower-end but perfectly safe areas of Santa Clara or Sunnyvale for $600/month or so. $800-$1000 will get you a nice room that's near to the y combinator offices. If you are renting a room, you often can get away with first and deposit, especially for lower end stuff. Look around.

As for savings, well, that depends on your risk tolerance. A year and a half seems pretty excessive to me, but then I personally co-sign business loans and leases, so if the company craters, any personal money I had is gone anyhow.

If you are in a capital intensive space (e.g. you have to buy lots of servers like I do) contracting while you are starting up (if you can talk people into going corp to corp) can have some tax advantages, too.

Re: Ask HN: How much savings did you have when you started?

#19
post #3

Depends on your expenses. How long do you anticipate that amount would last? And, would you be totally doomed if after X months, your startup isn't making any money and you run out of savings? I think $18k is plenty fine, (but that's just me). I'm planning to do a similar thing and my savings are less than that.

I think $18k is plenty fine, (but that's just me).

Not for San Francisco.

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