> There are no down arrows on stories. They appear on comments after users reach a certain karma threshold, but never on direct replies.
Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
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Re: Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
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Re: Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
#13By the way I think that this downvote button is really a bad feature that brings negativity.
Don't like a post? Just ignore and don't upvote it!
Re: Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
#14By the way I think that this downvote button is really a bad feature that brings negativity. Don't like a post? Just ignore and don't upvote it!
I always liked Reddit's intended approach: downvote comments that don't add to the conversation.
Sadly, votes are too easily mapped to agree/disagree or truth/falsehood - see the "1,800 karma" comment below as a key example, where it furthers the conversation but is downvoted "because they are incorrect".
Re: Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
#15Yes, both. Downvote and flag. You need x karma to see it. The [-] collapses the subthread, nothing more.
x is actually 501.
Even past that threshold, you can't downvote responses to your own comments. That's probably a wise limitation when you think about it.
Downvoting threads is done with the "flag" button which appears at the same time. Unfortunately, as HN has grown past a certain size, there's gotten to be a critical mass of "made" high-karma censors, who flag nascent postings on a whim. The diversity of articles suffers, limited now to either the things censors like, plus a small selection of postings where teams will "unflag" (also available at 501) this price-of-admission flagging.
Running any kind of good forum is hard, and HN's moderators work really hard at it, but "strangled-in-the-crib" flagging both takes away from the value of the site and gamifies the forum to where it now takes a team to make a posting that survives. I don't have an easy solution, though it might be worth trying to limit flags to one, two, or ten per day.
Re: Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
#16By the way I think that this downvote button is really a bad feature that brings negativity. Don't like a post? Just ignore and don't upvote it!
HN agrees, and so doesn't have downvoting for posts, only comments. (Posts can be flagged, which is different.)
Re: Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
#17By the way I think that this downvote button is really a bad feature that brings negativity. Don't like a post? Just ignore and don't upvote it!
I always liked Reddit's intended approach: downvote comments that don't add to the conversation. Sadly, votes are too easily mapped to agree/disagree or truth/falsehood - see the "1,800 karma" comment below as a key example, where it furthers the conversation but is downvoted "because they are incorrect".
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Re: Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a urban legend. I have over 1,800 points, and there's no downvote to be seen.
I see no downvote on articles. I do see downvote on some comments (not all). The rules seem subtle.
Quite consistently: no downvote button on comments more than 24 hours old; no downvote button on comments that are followups to your own comment.
Submissions don't have downvoting, but you can flag them.
Re: Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
#19Yes, both. Downvote and flag. You need x karma to see it. The [-] collapses the subthread, nothing more.
x is actually 501. Even past that threshold, you can't downvote responses to your own comments. That's probably a wise limitation when you think about it. Downvoting threads is done with the "flag" button which appears at the same time. Unfortunately, as HN has grown past a certain size, there's gotten to be a critical mass of "made" high-karma censors, who flag nascent postings on a whim. The diversity of articles s…
Yes, exactly. I find this a major annoyance of HN, and wish it would be improved.
Re: Ask HN: Where's the downvote button?
#20Yes, both. Downvote and flag. You need x karma to see it. The [-] collapses the subthread, nothing more.
x is actually 501. Even past that threshold, you can't downvote responses to your own comments. That's probably a wise limitation when you think about it. Downvoting threads is done with the "flag" button which appears at the same time. Unfortunately, as HN has grown past a certain size, there's gotten to be a critical mass of "made" high-karma censors, who flag nascent postings on a whim. The diversity of articles s…
I have well under 501 karma, and I'm able to flag articles as well as vouch for dead ones.
I think your idea of limiting the number of flags a user has per day is a good one. I'm kind of surprised that isn't the default behavior already...