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Ask HN: Why the Hacker News community is always hating on new ideas?

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Re: Ask HN: Why the Hacker News community is always hating on new ideas?

#11
I think it's due to the fact that many HN people prefer to give honest analysis/opinion, even if the truth hurts. In the long run, it's probably more useful that way to whomever posted, to get "real-life" feedback at least from a technical perspective.

The question did make me think, whether there's a small part that supports the stereotype(?) of "smart" people, or those working in IT/tech, having less empathy and emotional consideration. Kindness can be seen as unnecessary or even harmful sugar-coating..

Re: Ask HN: Why the Hacker News community is always hating on new ideas?

#12

Life lesson: People have hated on new ideas in every community since the dawn of time. Hacker news is not special in that regard. Just learn to deal with it by finding conviction in your ideas.

"Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their own vision. Their goals differed, but they all had this in common: that the step was first, the road new, the vision unborrowed, and the response they received — hatred. The great creators — the thinkers, the artists, the scientists, the inventors — stood alone against the men of their time. Every great new thought was opposed. Every great new invention was denounced. The first motor was considered foolish. The airplane was considered impossible. The power loom was considered vicious. Anesthesia was considered sinful. But the men of unborrowed vision went ahead. They fought, they suffered and they paid. But they won."

Re: Ask HN: Why the Hacker News community is always hating on new ideas?

#13
My theory is that communities like HN and StackOverflow are a magnet for very smart people with a very direct style of communication. Yes, they sound sassy or snarky but most have no intention to be mean. They just lack most of the brain circuitry to refrain from comment or beat around the bush.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Hacker News community is always hating on new ideas?

#14

My theory is that communities like HN and StackOverflow are a magnet for very smart people with a very direct style of communication. Yes, they sound sassy or snarky but most have no intention to be mean. They just lack most of the brain circuitry to refrain from comment or beat around the bush.

In person, voice tone, facial expression etc help convey warmth and kindness. On the internet, all you have is words (unless you go out of your way to include emoticons, gifs, etc, which are not the norm on HN). This often sounds far harsher than was intended.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Hacker News community is always hating on new ideas?

#15
I think a lot of the negative energy comes from that startup-frustration that many in Silicon Valley feel. Every idea sucks unless they came up with it, because nobody wants to be left out of the next Facebook, Uber, etc. That attitude permeates everything.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Hacker News community is always hating on new ideas?

#16
It would help to give some specific examples of threads or comments you think are hateful.

The more active HN users, with the support of the moderators, are quite vigilant about downvoting or flagging nasty comments.

Can you give any examples of nasty or mean comments that appear high up in the comment thread and/or without being faded or flagged?

The whole idea of Show HN is to encourage people to build interesting things and get feedback to help them improve their project and/or skills. So, constructive criticism should be welcomed whereas meanness should be weeded out any time it appears.

If you're seeing mean comments in Show HN posts, you should flag and downvote those comments and consider reporting them to the moderators at hn@ycombinator.com.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Hacker News community is always hating on new ideas?

#18
I'm not going to lie if something is badly presented or mediocre. I don't think that helps the team that made it or the quality of HN.

I don't want people to be sad or hurt either.

Sometimes it looks like something is opportunistic or scammy. In that case you flag it. If something seems clueless and doesn't seem to have a lot of work or thought behind it I hope people want to help when they level harsh criticism. In these cases people need direction and it's a case where guidance or mentorship might help. It's so important to do this with care.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Hacker News community is always hating on new ideas?

#19
Some cultures (and subcultures) value honest, sharp critique and in others it is perceived as direct, personal attack. See the culture - cognition connection [1]

[1] http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb06/connection.aspx

[2] https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/17/learning-to-embrace-confli...

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