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Ask HN: Why don't more entrepreneurs focus on lifestyle businesses?

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Re: Ask HN: Why don't more entrepreneurs focus on lifestyle businesses?

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Unpopular opinion: if your company is going to succeed, why do you need VC? Sure, (nearly) every really really big company pulled VC at some point, but this is an industry full of survivor bias - and VC's know full well that almost all their punts are going to fail. VC is, arguably, the most expensive money you will ever borrow. If you could borrow a couple of hundred K against, say, obscene house prices in San Francisco it would save you multiple millions down the road.

Unpopular opinion: if your company is going to fail, you need VC money. This, to me, is one of the biggest problems facing our entire industry. The 1/20 that succeed have to carry the 19/20 that want to be cool and have bean bags in their office.

The (smaller) VC's have to, ideally, find that little narrow gap between a self-funded startup starting to "go" and the time when the founders decide they can live on a quarter million a year and be just fine. To be frank, it sounds really hard and I don't envy them the task. But they do get to charge 2% for doing nothing and I could do with some of that :)

How can we create a VC industry that's focussed on more, smaller wins? Perhaps a focus on recurring dividends? Or does the math work out that there is simply no point because the big wins are so, so big?

Re: Ask HN: Why don't more entrepreneurs focus on lifestyle businesses?

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Unpopular opinion: if your company is going to succeed, why do you need VC? Sure, (nearly) every really really big company pulled VC at some point, but this is an industry full of survivor bias - and VC's know full well that almost all their punts are going to fail. VC is, arguably, the most expensive money you will ever borrow. If you could borrow a couple of hundred K against, say, obscene house prices in San Franc…

In my small experience researching banking before this big VC boom in SF (I wanted to work in VC) I don't think chasing sustainable small wins is the name of the game (see traditional VC companies like bio-med.)

I wonder how much of getting VC money is just wanted to be in SF where all the customers are (if you are selling to startups anyway/tech b2b anyway) and pissing it all away on rent?

I think the biggest thing the Government can do in Australia anyway to help these smaller wins is promote VCs to invest in companies outside Sydney and Melbourne. You could do this by providing fibre, airports, easier local gov tender process...

Re: Ask HN: Why don't more entrepreneurs focus on lifestyle businesses?

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They obsession with scalability may not be a fit for founder passion and goals.

The world is huge and bazillions of lifestyle businesses make money every single day. In a way, a tangible lifestyle business can deliver steady income, whereas a startup is 99.9% an unicorn likely to burn through all of its cash and implode.

A fundamental question: keep chasing unicorns or run a profitable business that pays the bills? Some of both?

Re: Ask HN: Why don't more entrepreneurs focus on lifestyle businesses?

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There's a whole sub culture around it that has been on Hacker News for a decade. Go look up people like Basecamp/37 signals/DHH and Amy Hoy/Stacking the bricks. Loads of articles about bootstrapping. Another one who wrote about this a lot was Buffer, but they changed their tune and took funding. There's just less entrepreneur stories these days on HN so you don't see much about it, to me HN has shifted its focus thes…

Thanks, I'll take a look. Funny that the stories have changed so much. I feel like its never been easier to start a company. Perhaps comp is so high that most folks have no incentive to leave BigTechCo.

Big Tech is more visible precisely because it's big. But everything I have read suggests it is the tip of the iceberg. The majority of businesses are small and fly below the radar, so to speak.

Re: Ask HN: Why don't more entrepreneurs focus on lifestyle businesses?

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I suspect there are more people who start lifestyle companies than aim for VC-funded companies. But they probably don't get as much press coverage and so seem less common.

And they don't want press coverage. If you are making a nice living doing 4 hours a week selling systems to {one weird old industry a solo founder would die to know about} you hardly want to invite competition. Competition ain't good for your lifestyle :-)

Re: Ask HN: Why don't more entrepreneurs focus on lifestyle businesses?

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I'd argue that the industry tends to swing between larger venture startups to constellations of smaller 'lifestyle'/bootstrapped businesses as technology shifts, in cycles.

The VC capital flows in when there are hard and expensive problems to solve in emerging tech spaces that need a lot of innovation or heavy lifting and, hence, financial runway to survive.

When the tech in the space gets cheaper, the cow paths have been paved and the tech becomes more accessible, it becomes more viable to bootstrap your way into the market. The get rich quick gold rush starts and then everyone floods in to find niches in the market they can fill on their own.

Eventually the bootstrapped businesses fill all the niches they can, the market becomes saturated and it's no longer lucrative or easy to bootstrap in that space. And the cycle begins again

Re: Ask HN: Why don't more entrepreneurs focus on lifestyle businesses?

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Unpopular opinion: if your company is going to succeed, why do you need VC? Sure, (nearly) every really really big company pulled VC at some point, but this is an industry full of survivor bias - and VC's know full well that almost all their punts are going to fail. VC is, arguably, the most expensive money you will ever borrow. If you could borrow a couple of hundred K against, say, obscene house prices in San Franc…

Say for example, your company needs about 1 million users before you can start charging any type of meaningful advertising dollars. Additionally, there's this virality affect that gets those 1 million users to get their friends on your product, so things will start to take off quickly, and then viola! You have a moat.

Only rub is, until you hit 1 million, you're making essentially $0. And that'll take lots of time, people, and servers that all need to be paid for.

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