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Re: Ask HN: Who else hates iTunes?

#11
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I honestly have stopped buying iPhones just to stop having to deal with that utter pile of rubbish that iTunes is. It was maddening riddled with bugs and just hopelessly hacked up on Windows, way beyond the amount I could find acceptable.

It seems like Apple has been doing away with the iTunes dependency, albeit slowly. You have been able to update without iTunes for a couple of years and more recently the awful Apps syncing was removed too.

Also, introduction of iCloud sync for files and backup vs. iTunes local sync.

Re: Ask HN: Who else hates iTunes?

#12
After 15 years on iTunes, and much devotion towards keeping a clean library of music that I ripped or purchased, Apple Music ruined it for me.

Especially in iOS, where it did not understand the concept of not having a constant internet connection, like it was implemented by some 21 year-old newb that had never made any production code in their life. This made Apple Music completely useless for my primary use case; driving along the coast on Highway 1.

And that's not even getting to their poor aping of Spotify's UI, without even understanding what makes Spotify work, and mucking up everything in the process. And the atrociously non-functional and ugly flat UI with no communication about what you can tap and what is not tappable.

Never again will Apple Music get any of my money, and never again will I trust Apple with my music. It was a major turning point in everything I do with them; I've always had easy escape routes for all my data to leave the Apple ecosystem, but it was the first time I had to use one in practice.

I've switched to Spotify, abandoning all my investment of time and money into my music library. I don't have time to invest in that anymore.

Building an app on top of anything Apple Music is folly, you'll always be fighting against their changes in formats, and you can be locked out at any moment.

Re: Ask HN: Who else hates iTunes?

#14
It's pretty much universally accepted that iTunes is a giant bloated mess.

However,there's other audio players and media organization programs, why not use one of those instead? I only know of Clementine, which is open source. I can't vouch for it's features or anything - I only know it exists.

Edit: I guess the question is about Apple Music, specifically, my first read through I thought you meant you were playing raw MP3s. So disregard this post.

Re: Ask HN: Who else hates iTunes?

#15
post #5

I honestly have stopped buying iPhones just to stop having to deal with that utter pile of rubbish that iTunes is. It was maddening riddled with bugs and just hopelessly hacked up on Windows, way beyond the amount I could find acceptable.

I have been using iPhones since the first one and haven't had a reason to launch iTunes last 3-4 years I guess. Was this before then?

Re: Ask HN: Who else hates iTunes?

#16
Spotify has quite a few of the features you're looking for already. Why reinvent the wheel? It costs about the same as Apple Music, and I have very few complaints with the apps and desktop client. There's also quite a bit of IFTTT compatibility and a (from what I've heard) decent API.

Re: Ask HN: Who else hates iTunes?

#17
One thing I love about Apple Music are the Radio 1 shows - the back catalog of sessions are some of the most incredible sets of music ever. Finding them and playing is incredibly frustrating with iTunes - it sucks big time. Is the main reason I gave up on Apple Music. If you can improve this part it would be great.

Re: Ask HN: Who else hates iTunes?

#19
The reason I use iTunes...have to use Itunes...is because:

* I love high quality audio books

* I use a classic iPod

* Audible is really the main game in town.

I think of ditching the iPod and using the Android App, but that makes me a bit sad.

What I'd really like is a Keyboard Kindle with 160GB of storage (I like knowing things are on the device) and some enhanced audiobook features. That's kind of my dream really. Which let's face it is unlikely to turn up soon.

Re: Ask HN: Who else hates iTunes?

#20
I just want them to fix bugs that have been outstanding for the last year plus. The one that gets me the most is the box that says something about folllowing friends. There’s a close button that closes it but as soon as you go back to the page it shows up again.
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