You have no leverage. You need to find and accept another (much better) offer.
Ask HN: How to ask for a raise?
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Re: Ask HN: How to ask for a raise?
#12A 10% raise brings you to 35k, that very likely may be your roof for this year. A 5% raise only takes it up to to 33.5k, which doesn't really make that much of a difference unless you actually put away EUR 100 a month, which leaves you with 1.2k in the bank next year. Many people instantly spend the money once they have a bit more room to breathe, so that may not help much. Regardless, I would definitely ask for a ra…
A nice explaination of a raise negotiation strategy you've written there. I like it very much.
Ditto. I think the positive framing you suggest is important.
It is possible that the supervisor is ok offering a raise but hasn’t offered if he/she wasn’t asked.
Re: Ask HN: How to ask for a raise?
#13You dont ask for a raise. You get exactly what you deserve.
Hear me out:
No one ever gets a raise before they start doing the extra work.
It is always a case of "wow, we better give Alice a raise since she's doing so much and it would suck to try and replace her with someone else at her current pay".
Re: Ask HN: How to ask for a raise?
#14Yes, you should ask for one. Be straightforward when asking, and make the case that you're now a more valuable member of the company. Cite that you've become the de-facto project leader. You could also say you want a promotion, or at least a change in title, if you feel you are no longer in the junior role.
You may also want to take into account the political situation in your company. Who makes decisions on raises and promotions? Is there a process in place? Is what you do visible to them (and how could it be more visible)?
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#15It depends on where you're from. If you need a VISA I assume you're not from the EU. If you immigrated from a wealthy country, then go for it. Worst case you go back home. But if going back home is a problem, then you'll probably have to either bite the bullet and save harder (You can probably save 10k/year or more in france with that salary if you try hard enough) or "ask nicely" for a raise, but don't expect much.
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#16IMO, €32k is decent for a junior position with 1 year experience.
Isn't that the average wage, generally?
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#17IMO, €32k is decent for a junior position with 1 year experience. Isn't that the average wage, generally?
That translates to roughly 1950€ per month, before taxes.
Re: Ask HN: How to ask for a raise?
#18A 10% raise brings you to 35k, that very likely may be your roof for this year. A 5% raise only takes it up to to 33.5k, which doesn't really make that much of a difference unless you actually put away EUR 100 a month, which leaves you with 1.2k in the bank next year. Many people instantly spend the money once they have a bit more room to breathe, so that may not help much. Regardless, I would definitely ask for a ra…
Thank you, I will lead with all the technologies that I mastered meanwhile, my leading role in the 2 companies, and how they are both very happy with my work.
Re: Ask HN: How to ask for a raise?
#19Patio11's podcast on salary negotiations might offer some insight on discussing raises, https://www.kalzumeus.com/2016/06/03/kalzumeus-podcast-episo...
Holy shit, patio¹¹, get sound dampening. Sounds like you recorded this in a 50-yard-long school hallway!
P.S. Thanks for the transcription.
Re: Ask HN: How to ask for a raise?
#20In france salaries depend heavily on your years of experience (Junior, confirmé, senior...) so if you are just starting your career there is a tiny chance your boss will accept giving you a rise, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try and ask. Seeing your colleagues doing same work and being paid more is definitely not a healthy aspect to live by. I was there. You have two options: Ask for a rise, if you get it then…
What do you think the yearly raise should be? (and should it be yearly?)