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Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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I'm earnestly appalled at how terrible this release has been. I've had an iPhone since 3GS and this is the first time I can remember I've really regretted an update. I've NEVER experienced my iPhone completely locking up for 5-10 minutes right in the middle of me trying to get work done, not allowing me to even force-reboot it. I have to power cycle it at least a dozen times a day now because it gets into a state whe…

Time to treat Apple releases like we used to treat Microsoft releases? (Always wait for the first service pack).

If iOS 11.1 can be considered "the first service pack", then even that sounds iffy. Or at least, what I'm reading suggests that even with that update, my battery life would still be crap should I decide to upgrade.

Though this gets to another problem with Apple's maintenance of iOS: If you don't upgrade to iOS 11, you don't get their fix for krack attacks. Microsoft, on the other hand, did have the common decency to continue issuing security patches for older major releases.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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I'm earnestly appalled at how terrible this release has been. I've had an iPhone since 3GS and this is the first time I can remember I've really regretted an update. I've NEVER experienced my iPhone completely locking up for 5-10 minutes right in the middle of me trying to get work done, not allowing me to even force-reboot it. I have to power cycle it at least a dozen times a day now because it gets into a state whe…

I experienced the power cycle issue too. I narrowed it down to happening when apps update. If you turn off automatic updates for apps, you should not get into a state where you need to restart as often.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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post #4

It's a new release, not a general decline in quality. This always happens, it's just that iOS updates are infrequent enough that people forget about the day 1 bugs. You want to be on the cutting edge? This is what you get! I didn't even have to tell my mother not to update, she knew to wait a few months.

No, this is does not always happen. This is why we're here discussing this. Why are so many HN commenters so quick to just flatly ignore the fact that the very reason you're seeing this conversation in the first place is because lots of people agree with the OP, or believe it to be an important discussion? Your comment could be summed up as "Bah, humbug."

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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All valid points.

Personally I find that iOS recently has really fallen behind, the hardware coming from Apple is still best in class, software is terrible. Notifications are abysmal, the UI in places feels pieced together, some of the UI just doesn't make sense, functionality is lacking in a number of areas. That doesn't even start on the bugs.

To be honest the software and the software alone is pushing me more and more to Android as I'm really disliking the lack of traction from Apple on improving iOS.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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post #10

I switched from Android to iOS for the first time with the iPhone 8 plus and while the camera is the best camera I've ever owned on a smartphone, I'm pretty disappointed with iOS. I'm probably going to switch back to Android in a couple years. I can't recall a new Android release ever being this buggy for this long.

> I can't recall a new Android release ever being this buggy for this long.

It has been what, 2 months?

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Since installing iOS 11 some things that keep happening:

1) I turn off wifi only to notice internet stuff not working later, only to realize wifi has turned itself back on and connected to a random open network.

2) Almost any time I try to update any app(s), all apps freeze and won't function until I force restart my phone.

3) Random freezes and crashes all the time.

4) Much worse battery life on iPhone 7

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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post #10

I switched from Android to iOS for the first time with the iPhone 8 plus and while the camera is the best camera I've ever owned on a smartphone, I'm pretty disappointed with iOS. I'm probably going to switch back to Android in a couple years. I can't recall a new Android release ever being this buggy for this long.

What phones have you owned?
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