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Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on involving marketing and sales depart. when choosing a CMS?

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See also CMS Critic ( https://www.cmscritic.com/ ). That said, everybody seems to move to Wordpress these days. It’s not nearly as diverse as it used to be.

My company does a lot of high-end CMS builds and WordPress is never even on the table. The hot thing at the moment is headless cloud CMS like Contenful or Prismic. Our deep-pocketed clients are more likely to go for something like AEM or Sitecore. For low-touch systems, we'll usually just recommend a static site generator.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on involving marketing and sales depart. when choosing a CMS?

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I've rarely worked on a project where this wasn't mandatory. In fact, marketing frequently owns the budget for our projects and for software licenses. They are easily swayed by savvy sales teams that show off a smoke and mirrors demo so make sure you explain the actual cost involved of customizing a system because it's usually more than the cost of licenses.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on involving marketing and sales depart. when choosing a CMS?

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I'm in marketing and do most of my work in a proprietary CMS.

1. See if it has to integrate with any software. Find out what marketing really really needs to still have, and what they could switch out if necessary.

2. See what they do. What kind of changes they need to make and how often. Find out what sorts of changes cannot wait weeks for an IT ticket.

This could narrow it down, and then you can get input from the other departments and iterate toward a decision.

Then have them play with it. They'll probably say oh shit, why can't I just do _____.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on involving marketing and sales depart. when choosing a CMS?

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post #9

See also CMS Critic ( https://www.cmscritic.com/ ). That said, everybody seems to move to Wordpress these days. It’s not nearly as diverse as it used to be.

My company does a lot of high-end CMS builds and WordPress is never even on the table. The hot thing at the moment is headless cloud CMS like Contenful or Prismic. Our deep-pocketed clients are more likely to go for something like AEM or Sitecore. For low-touch systems, we'll usually just recommend a static site generator.

I've heard of Sitecore, but AEM. What's that?

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on involving marketing and sales depart. when choosing a CMS?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My company does a lot of high-end CMS builds and WordPress is never even on the table. The hot thing at the moment is headless cloud CMS like Contenful or Prismic. Our deep-pocketed clients are more likely to go for something like AEM or Sitecore. For low-touch systems, we'll usually just recommend a static site generator.

I've heard of Sitecore, but AEM. What's that?

Adobe Experience Manager. It's surprisingly pleasant from a DevOps perspective. It has a ton of features and fundamentally "works" but it can be onerous and has some weird architectural decisions.

Since Adobe acquired Omniture and some ad management companies, it sells it as an all-in-one marketing platform even though those integrations are mostly worthless. It makes for an awesome marketing demo, but it's ultimately very disappointing.

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