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Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Re: Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Post by jayajay »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #5

Let me share a "contrarian" view. People think react can't be beat because they have Facebook behind them and tons of people are working on it with tons of funding. But I think that may be the reason why it may go down one day. Facebook is not doing this for complete charity. At the moment their interest is aligned with react being open source but you never know when that will change. And when that happens, the artif…

I agree, this is the sole reason why I am no longer using React for anything serious. Facebook is bad news, no pun intended. Thankfully, there are other solutions that don't have any strings attached.

Re: Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Post by lalwanivikas »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #5

Let me share a "contrarian" view. People think react can't be beat because they have Facebook behind them and tons of people are working on it with tons of funding. But I think that may be the reason why it may go down one day. Facebook is not doing this for complete charity. At the moment their interest is aligned with react being open source but you never know when that will change. And when that happens, the artif…

It's not just Facebook anymore as many big companies are using it everywhere - web, pwa, native apps etc. So I don't think it's going to go away anytime soon.

For example, watch this 5 min React Conf talk on how Flipkart has made React a big part of their tech stack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsvyg0T40NU

Re: Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Post by bbcbasic »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #4
Pishky wrote: post #2

VueJS does not have the backing of Facebook and cannot compete on that issue alone.

How does that matter? There are countless historical examples where larger organizations with plenty of funding lost to smaller opponent.

E.g. Jenkins vs. Hudson

Re: Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Post by BjoernKW »

You'll definitely not be wasting time. Vue.js has some serious traction already. It really doesn't matter if it'll surpass React. There's plenty of space for both and it's not a winner-takes-all situation.

Besides, it's hard to predict if either will be still widely used for new projects say 5 years from now. So, becoming a one-trick (or rather one-framework) pony probably isn't the wisest path in the long run. Rather try to take in general best practices, design patterns and approaches and become someone that can work comfortably with both React and Vue.js or in fact any other new JavaScript framework that might come along.

Re: Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Post by feistypharit »

Vue has some annoying issues as you grow. For example, if you start simple from the script tag and later want to move to npm and webpack, all sorts of things break. It's not just the difference in build types that they note. (With or without runtime compiler).

Ultimately, I think the winning framework will be one that compiles. Something like svelte[1]. It's how most other software is made for good reasons.

https://svelte.technology/

Re: Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Post by jMyles »

bbcbasic wrote: post #13
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that matter? There are countless historical examples where larger organizations with plenty of funding lost to smaller opponent.

E.g. Jenkins vs. Hudson

That's a very, very different example. Jenkins was an exodus by community members of an existing project. And Oracle didn't have the political will to keep up with Hudson anyway.

It's like comparing Vue with LibreOffice.

Re: Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Post by onurozkan »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #4
Pishky wrote: post #2

VueJS does not have the backing of Facebook and cannot compete on that issue alone.

How does that matter? There are countless historical examples where larger organizations with plenty of funding lost to smaller opponent.

I've seen many enterprise chooses angular just because of Google. React is the similar in this subject.

Popularity and some-big-company's supports is most important thing for them.

Re: Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Post by onurozkan »

TaizWeb wrote: post #8
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that matter? There are countless historical examples where larger organizations with plenty of funding lost to smaller opponent.

Ah, like how babel was able to compete with typescript despite typescript being funded by Microsoft and babel by community efforts

I choose Babel over Typescript, because Babel implements default Ecmascript (afaik). Typescript is mostly type-safe and welcoming for non-js (c#, maybe java) coders.

Re: Ask HN: Do you think VueJS will surpass React?

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Post by baybal2 »

Pishky wrote: post #2

VueJS does not have the backing of Facebook and cannot compete on that issue alone.

A counterexample here - Angular. I think, it is slowly becoming a piece of abandondware exactly because of Google's influence and backing.

Angular 1 was a framework, Angular 2 was a piece of a religious writing that people developed to pad their resumes.

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