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Re: Ask HN: Are Programming Salaries Inaccurate?

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After I came back from teaching English overseas, I was desperate for a job and applied across the boards of Craigslist. I got a bite on a programming job making $10 an hour. I was thrilled because someone actually considered me, a person with very little programming experience, for the job. I was just happy to take the job and get experience. Even with the $40,000 student loan debt I had. After my training period wa…

I know it doesn't feel like it, but wins all around. You had little experience and you got a job and experience. Your ex-boss needed to take advantage of someone at $12 an hour. Your new company needed someone experienced. You needed more pay and respect. A more principled person might not have hired you at all and instead looked to hire someone with good experience at good rates, because they "want to do the right t…

Ha. Part of what you say is true... he helped me to be a better programmer. I would just jump right into and start coding. Now I actually write all the logic and functions out before starting which saves me so much time.

His greatest lesson to me: You can't really code for the customer if you don't understand what your program is supposed to do for the customer.

Though we did part ways and he did say some words to me that I was not fond of. That was just the type of person he was. I actually parted ways with him more nicely writing an email thanking him for giving me exposure to the programming world once again. He was mad about it, but hey, I was being courteous and trying my best not to burn bridges.

To let you know the type of person he is/was: I received a nice paycheck from the IRS a few years later out of no where from his business. He must've been audited.

But he did take a chance on me and I am grateful for that. It pushed me back into the world of programming and development. Without this job, I wouldn't have gotten the experience for the companies that came afterwards to take me seriously as a professional coder/programmer/developer.

And Visual Basic 6.0 was quite outdated... he was probably the last company to even still be using it. Had I stayed, I was working on a web version of the program. But choosing another job, going forward, moving on... I actually got hired and moved across the country by another company.

Re: Ask HN: Are Programming Salaries Inaccurate?

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Canada you can expect C40k-75k unless you work for some unicorn startup in Toronto recruiting top talent or specialize in something and contract yourself out. The vast majority of salaries are C$35/hr for senior developer which is what a unionized janitor makes after you account for their benefits the developer doesn't receive. Almost everybody I know here is a contractor, working remotely at US companies these days or to large outfits that do city bids for websites/dbms work and sub-contract to them.

Russia, @homakov writes that he made $3/hr as a php dev there before specializing in appsec and contracting himself out. https://medium.com/@homakov/how-i-started-in-web-security-40...

Re: Ask HN: Are Programming Salaries Inaccurate?

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So salaries in the most job offers are real. That is obvious that you are making less in Russia than in US. Even on the same position. Only working remotelty for western clients may give similar earnings. Check out some offers https://jobsquery.it/jobs;page=1;tags=;sortBy=SALARY_DESC;qu...
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