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Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

#11
In a totally neuter tone. Why do you identify vegan + pills with "healthy diet" and omnivorous with "unhealthy diet"? A diet that leads to nerve damage unless you add suplements to avoid it, do not sounds to me as "healthy" by definition.

Lets say that "vegans live longer". This is our null hypothesis. Is the percentage of pure vegans among the longest living people in the world significatively higher?

Jeanne Calment: Smoker. Some alcohol. Active. Diet rich in olive oil and lots of chocolate. 122 Yo.

Susannah Mushatt Jones. Sleeping a lot and eating bacon each day. 116 Yo

Jiroemon Kimura. Favourite food, pickled mackerels. 116 Yo

Christian Mortensen. Moderated smoker, not alcohol, active, diet with a lot of potatoes and vegetables. Some meat. 115 Yo.

Emiliano Mercado: Eating corn and codfish each day. 115 Yo.

...

As a footnote, I'll only buy a book titled "I will show you how to live forever" or so, if it was written by an author 100 years old at least.

Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

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I switched to a vegan diet out of ideology, not health issues, so I didn't really plan how to do it. I just eat plenty of vegetables, fruit, and all kinds of beans or lentils. I think cooking fresh meals (instead of eating out or eating pre-cooked food) has a lot to do with it. Basically, just listen to your body. I don't take any vitamins and I'm reasonably fit.

So where does your B12 come from?

Either you get it from pills yourself, or (if not vegan) the animals will be injected with it. Either way, there is no perfect solution to fill up your B12 needs

Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

#13
My girlfriend is vegan and I am vegetarian. I am vegetarian for 3/4 of a year now and slowly start to replace all animal based products. The best help for me is to have someone I can rely on (like my girlfriend). Sharing food with someone who already is vegan helped me to get the right feeling for it and made me experience a lot of options food wise. Ultimatively I am vegetarian because living with my girlfriend showed me that I can eat tasty stuff without having to kill or abuse animals

Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

#14
My girlfriend is vegan and I am vegetarian. I am vegetarian for 3/4 of a year now and slowly start to replace all animal based products. The best help for me is to have someone I can rely on (like my girlfriend). Sharing food with someone who already is vegan helped me to get the right feeling for it and made me experience a lot of options food wise. Ultimatively I am vegetarian because living with my girlfriend showed me that I can eat tasty stuff without having to kill or abuse animals

Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

#15
I became vegan for heath reasons at the same time I started my company (around 5 years ago). I believe it has allowed my body to stay young and my alertness to go up.

Starting out you just think of it as one meal at a time... this meal I won't eat anything with animal protein. Then one week at a time and before you know it you will pass the 90-day mark which is when you stop being hungry all the time and/or craving meat at all.

Another thing to note is I never really think of myself as a "vegan", just someone that is extremely picky and won't eat anything with animal protein :)

Do take b12 supplements, though- I found my eye to be drooping when I became tired because I was deficient. After taking the b12 I was back to normal.

Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

#16
I'm vegetarian but I've spent a couple years as vegan when I was in my 20.

One day (I was 18, now I'm 40) I've decided to start choosing the vegetarian option whenever its available, after few days I realized that I was already vegetarian.

Being vegan is a completely different thing though, it require time, planning, knowledge and partecipation by the people around you. It can easily become a problem for everybody (not just you) and if you want your decision to be sustainable you don't want it. So my suggestion is to be smart, don't overdo, eventually start choosing the vegan option whenever is available or you have control on the meal preparation.

Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So where does your B12 come from?

Either you get it from pills yourself, or (if not vegan) the animals will be injected with it. Either way, there is no perfect solution to fill up your B12 needs

That's only true for anti biotics infested farm animals though. Either way if you go for a vegan diet you have to keep up with B12. Don't fall for the naturalistic fallacy ("if I eat fresh and 'natural' it will all be fine").

Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

#18
post #11

In a totally neuter tone. Why do you identify vegan + pills with "healthy diet" and omnivorous with "unhealthy diet"? A diet that leads to nerve damage unless you add suplements to avoid it, do not sounds to me as "healthy" by definition. Lets say that "vegans live longer". This is our null hypothesis. Is the percentage of pure vegans among the longest living people in the world significatively higher? Jeanne Calment…

I'm a meat eater, but we should acknowledge that iron from red meat, while easy to absorb, has been linked to a higher stomach cancer rate. There may be ways to mitigate it (e.g. yoghurt), but it's AFAIK so far unproven whether it's possible to get rid of that effect.

Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

#19
My girlfriend and I have been vegan for about 3,5 years now and are not planning to go back. For me the transition was really easy and I feel it can definitely be so for everyone. It's really all about your standards and perception.

If you want everything to taste exactly the way that non-vegan food does, that's not gonna work out. If you're ready to substitute the dishes you eat now with ones that taste different but just as good or even better though, then you're already all set.

You just have to be open minded about the change and it will come naturally, really. Also you really don't have to substitute meat with soy and other replacement products at all. They often taste bad or are unhealthy and replacing them with something more natural (like lentils, beans, potatoes etc.) is almost always better, across the board.

Really, just buy a vegan cookbook or gather recipes from blogs, try them and discover your favourites. Checking the ingredients of all the stuff you buy is the only thing you have to do.

One thing that could bother you though would be limited options when eating in restaurants. There is almost always at least one vegan option available, but you just won't have as much choice as before, which could be a dealbreaker for you.

You'll have to decide that for yourself. Though there are also many great vegan-only restaurants that serve really great stuff that you might not have discovered until now :)

Good luck on your journey, feel free to ask questions!

Re: Ask HN: How to become a vegan?

#20
I've been vegan for over 15 years. While a vegan diet is generally more healthy than the standard American diet, there are many healthy (easier) diets than veganism. Basically (imho), veganism is only compelling for ethical reasons.

Eating a vegan diet has however never been easier, especially if you live in a major American city; there is wide availability of reasonable replacement products, vegan options at restaurants, plus a general awareness of what veganism is with less of the reactionary responses that you might have gotten years ago.

How to become vegan? Just start slow; you don't have to do everything at once, learn to replace your standard dishes and ingredients one at a time.

Harder: how to stay vegan? Recognize that you can never be completely sure about ingredients and that trace amounts of animal products don't present any ethical issues. Be willing to eat out and chance some milk or eggs a dish, especially when dining with others. Veganism shouldn't be about making your own life an unlivable burden but about reducing harm.

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