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Re: Ask HN: How often women read HN? Participate?

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What are you talking about? Can you cite an example?

Quick example from [1]: "After sifting through near to three million pull requests submitted on GitHub, they found – against their expectations – that code written by women was approved at a slightly higher rate than that composed by men, 78.6 percent to 74.6 percent, respectively. That’s roughly an extra 120,000 pieces of code. "Nevertheless, there was a depressing caveat: this rule only applied if their gender was…

How much did the male approval rate change from unknown-male to known-male?

You can't just say that women's contributions fell and then not show the comparable male change.

Re: Ask HN: How often women read HN? Participate?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about? Can you cite an example?

Quick example from [1]: "After sifting through near to three million pull requests submitted on GitHub, they found – against their expectations – that code written by women was approved at a slightly higher rate than that composed by men, 78.6 percent to 74.6 percent, respectively. That’s roughly an extra 120,000 pieces of code. "Nevertheless, there was a depressing caveat: this rule only applied if their gender was…

Correlation != causation. Might it be possible that women who play the woman card are not as capable as those who let their code speak for their ability?

>women may in fact be better coders

How can someone make such a blanket statement like that with so many confounding variables. Do you think it possible that funding sources and expected (and socially acceptable) results might have something to do with the conclusion these sorts of studies come to? Do you think there are grants available for researchers who would interpret this data differently?

Re: Ask HN: How often women read HN? Participate?

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about? Can you cite an example?

Quick example from [1]: "After sifting through near to three million pull requests submitted on GitHub, they found – against their expectations – that code written by women was approved at a slightly higher rate than that composed by men, 78.6 percent to 74.6 percent, respectively. That’s roughly an extra 120,000 pieces of code. "Nevertheless, there was a depressing caveat: this rule only applied if their gender was…

That's not very comparable. People who reveal their gender online are a very specific set. Not many people (male or female) reveal their gender online.

On online sexual harassment: The women who are in the spotlight are normally harassed for their political beliefs (which they are very flamboyant about), not for their gender. People who air out their political beliefs publicly are harassed whether they are a males rights activist, feminist, conservative, etc.

Re: Ask HN: How often women read HN? Participate?

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quick example from [1]: "After sifting through near to three million pull requests submitted on GitHub, they found – against their expectations – that code written by women was approved at a slightly higher rate than that composed by men, 78.6 percent to 74.6 percent, respectively. That’s roughly an extra 120,000 pieces of code. "Nevertheless, there was a depressing caveat: this rule only applied if their gender was…

Correlation != causation. Might it be possible that women who play the woman card are not as capable as those who let their code speak for their ability? >women may in fact be better coders How can someone make such a blanket statement like that with so many confounding variables. Do you think it possible that funding sources and expected (and socially acceptable) results might have something to do with the conclusio…

Another simple theory is that introverted women may be better coders than both extroverted female and male coders.

Re: Ask HN: How often women read HN? Participate?

#17
I read it pretty often and have a comment history going back a number of years. Most of the time my gender isn't something that comes up. I wish I could say this place has improved in terms of how it feels to be women identified here, but I personally don't really feel like it has. It hasn't gotten worse, which is a credit to the community given how many other ways HN feels like it passed eternal September a long time ago.

I will note that some of the work I've done under nyms has hit the front page here and it was disheartening to see across hundreds of comments how many people just assumed whoever was behind the project was a guy. It was rare for anyone to be gender neutral and that was as radical as it got. No one assumed the author of that project was a woman.

Oh well.

Re: Ask HN: How often women read HN? Participate?

#18

I expect that not very many women will out themselves in response to your question, considering how much negative attention such an outing often results in.

Yep. Bringing up your gender on the Internet, even just matter of factly to correct someone's assumption is a quick way to find yourself and whatever point you were making derailed.

I don't hide, but I also don't bring it up much and my name being pretty gender neutral probably avoids a lot of frustrating moments.

Re: Ask HN: How often women read HN? Participate?

#19

I expect that not very many women will out themselves in response to your question, considering how much negative attention such an outing often results in.

Even for an "Ask HN" question that explicitly asks if they are female? In that case, negative attention makes even less sense as it is the point of the discussion.

Re: Ask HN: How often women read HN? Participate?

#20
It is a product/platform/community's failure if you even have to ask such a question. Remember the days when "a/s/l" used to be common like "lols" or "IMHOs" of today? Well, nobody cares about gender, age or location. But these attributes make all the difference in how one communicates, and how communities (authentic communities) are formed anywhere.
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