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Ask HN: What cities have the best salary / cost of living ratio?

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Re: Ask HN: What cities have the best salary / cost of living ratio?

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US tech salaries still seem to be disproportionately higher than elsewhere, so perhaps places like Seattle, Austin, D.C., Raleigh NC, St. Louis.

Austin salaries are pretty low, as is cost of living. But imho working for the rate here isn't worth your time.

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If you are in tech, Seattle has high salaries and no state income tax. Housing costs are rising, but I had a nice 1BR in Capitol Hill for ~ 1700 before buying a 3 BR townhouse in West Seattle with the same monthly cost for mortgage and taxes combined. Walk scores > 90 in both neighborhoods I've lived in and have never had a car. The equivalent housing would cost at least double in the Bay Area. Unfortunately, the win…

Unfortunately, the winter in Seattle is a downer

Some people get used to it. I did. But I'm from the Midwest, so my perspective is "hey, at least I don't have to shovel it". Me, since we've spent the summer doing outdoor stuff, it gives me a few months to catch up on more indoorsy stuff. Get caught up on reading, spend more time with my musical instruments, that kind of thing.

But still get outside: wear your headlamp, put your Gortex(tm) on, try to hold on until March.

Re: Ask HN: What cities have the best salary / cost of living ratio?

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Really depends on the person. There are people who think somewhere in Ohio is awesome because of the cheap houses and low COL, and there are others who would be suicidal living there.

You'll have to figure out what you want out of a place besides just low COL. You can't just mitigate your disdain for a place by looking at your savings account. That's one positive about my time in NYC, the city really forces you to figure out what you want in a place to live.

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Chicago. Affordable rent[1], dense, car optional, highly walkable, good transit, best biking city in the country[2], phenomenal restaurants and beer. I've met several visiting New Yorkers that refer to Chicago as a "smaller, cleaner New York." I've been here 8 years and have never had trouble finding a new programming job when I wanted one.

People will decry the violence (of which the vast majority is confined to the disadvantaged parts of the city[3]) and the weather (which you get used to and should stop being a wimp about), but I find the salary / cost of living ratio far outweighs the disadvantages.

[1] https://www.thrillist.com/lifestyle/chicago/the-l-rent-map-w...

[2] http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-bicycli...

[3] http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/homicides

Re: Ask HN: What cities have the best salary / cost of living ratio?

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If you are in tech, Seattle has high salaries and no state income tax. Housing costs are rising, but I had a nice 1BR in Capitol Hill for ~ 1700 before buying a 3 BR townhouse in West Seattle with the same monthly cost for mortgage and taxes combined. Walk scores > 90 in both neighborhoods I've lived in and have never had a car. The equivalent housing would cost at least double in the Bay Area. Unfortunately, the win…

Is 1700 for a 1BR considered "Low COL" ?

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Chicago. Affordable rent[1], dense, car optional, highly walkable, good transit, best biking city in the country[2], phenomenal restaurants and beer. I've met several visiting New Yorkers that refer to Chicago as a "smaller, cleaner New York." I've been here 8 years and have never had trouble finding a new programming job when I wanted one. People will decry the violence (of which the vast majority is confined to the…

Do any of the large tech companies (Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple) have offices in Chicago?

Re: Ask HN: What cities have the best salary / cost of living ratio?

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If you are in tech, Seattle has high salaries and no state income tax. Housing costs are rising, but I had a nice 1BR in Capitol Hill for ~ 1700 before buying a 3 BR townhouse in West Seattle with the same monthly cost for mortgage and taxes combined. Walk scores > 90 in both neighborhoods I've lived in and have never had a car. The equivalent housing would cost at least double in the Bay Area. Unfortunately, the win…

Is 1700 for a 1BR considered "Low COL" ?

Not to me, but perhaps in Capitol Hill it is and that's what the parent meant.

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Chicago. Affordable rent[1], dense, car optional, highly walkable, good transit, best biking city in the country[2], phenomenal restaurants and beer. I've met several visiting New Yorkers that refer to Chicago as a "smaller, cleaner New York." I've been here 8 years and have never had trouble finding a new programming job when I wanted one. People will decry the violence (of which the vast majority is confined to the…

Do any of the large tech companies (Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple) have offices in Chicago?

Google has a significant presence, though my understanding is it's mostly sales.

Chicago has a well-diversified economy, so it's not dominated by any one industry or company. There are a ton of bigcorp jobs, but they're more likely to be for companies like Hyatt, Walgreens, McDonalds, United, Allstate, etc. Legal and finance (particularly quantitative & algorithmic trading) are big as well.

Re: Ask HN: What cities have the best salary / cost of living ratio?

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If you are in tech, Seattle has high salaries and no state income tax. Housing costs are rising, but I had a nice 1BR in Capitol Hill for ~ 1700 before buying a 3 BR townhouse in West Seattle with the same monthly cost for mortgage and taxes combined. Walk scores > 90 in both neighborhoods I've lived in and have never had a car. The equivalent housing would cost at least double in the Bay Area. Unfortunately, the win…

Is 1700 for a 1BR considered "Low COL" ?

This isn't low compared to much of the country, but is pretty good for the relative quality of life and high salary that we are talking about. This is within walking distance of Pike Place and Melrose Market, music venues (Neumo's, Crocodile, numerous jazz clubs), theaters (Paramount, Moore), light rail to the airport, retail, high paying employment (Amazon, Redfin, Facebook, etc), and some great food/drink options.

Re: Ask HN: What cities have the best salary / cost of living ratio?

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If you are in tech, Seattle has high salaries and no state income tax. Housing costs are rising, but I had a nice 1BR in Capitol Hill for ~ 1700 before buying a 3 BR townhouse in West Seattle with the same monthly cost for mortgage and taxes combined. Walk scores > 90 in both neighborhoods I've lived in and have never had a car. The equivalent housing would cost at least double in the Bay Area. Unfortunately, the win…

Is 1700 for a 1BR considered "Low COL" ?

Much less expensive than San Francisco and Silicon Valley. Those are in the $3,000-$5,000 range if you don't want to commute.
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