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Re: Ask HN: How to find results removed from Google under 'right to be forgotten'?

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How about: don't? Your time to report on it was when it was online. If someone has something removed under a right to be forgotten, reporting on that pretty much violates that right, no?

The right to be forgotten is not a global right. OP could be from a country where courts have not made that ruling.

I'm speaking more to the ethics than the legal technicalities.

Re: Ask HN: How to find results removed from Google under 'right to be forgotten'?

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Honestly, I don't understand how anybody can honestly think that there can or should be a "right to be forgotten." These laws are an abomination of freedom of information and are incredibly naive.

Let me just publish articles full of libel and lies claiming you distribute child porn in a country without libel laws.

Let’s see what you do when the first result in Google for your name is such lies.

Or when things you did in your childhood are all Google results about you, and might make you fail to get a job.

The whole point of the Right to be Forgotten is to solve such issues which can’t be solved otherwise.

Re: Ask HN: How to find results removed from Google under 'right to be forgotten'?

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Wouldn't that be in opposition to the spirit of the law, if they just moved the removed results to a second search engine?

It's called google.com. But seriously, Google has a pretty passive-aggressive approach to complying with laws they don't like, such as publishing all DMCA takedown requests.

Re: Ask HN: How to find results removed from Google under 'right to be forgotten'?

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To the best of my knowledge: you cannot. (I'm an EU-based SEO. I don't know everything, but i might be a good source.) Most of the search queries that contain human names will be marked as "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe." no matter wether a removal really happened or not.

Afais this is the "best" data you get from Google for this topic: https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/europepri...

When you look at the other transparency reports you'll notice that you're able to search through other types of removed results (e.g. copyright violations), but that this is not possible in the right to be forgotten area.

[Edit] But you could ask any big newspaper Website for help. They receive a notice in their Search Console when a result is taken down.

Re: Ask HN: How to find results removed from Google under 'right to be forgotten'?

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Wouldn't that be in opposition to the spirit of the law, if they just moved the removed results to a second search engine?

E.g. BBC publishes/used to publish the list of their pages that were removed from Google search results for this reason: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/1d765aa8-600b-4f... Not sure if there's any more recent version of that page.

Not that i believe brexit will happen, but if it does, i'd guess those pages can be relisted.

Re: Ask HN: How to find results removed from Google under 'right to be forgotten'?

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Honestly, I don't understand how anybody can honestly think that there can or should be a "right to be forgotten." These laws are an abomination of freedom of information and are incredibly naive.

Before the Internet, people eventually forgot what mistakes you made in the past. If there were records, not everyone had access to them and they eventually expired.

Don't you see the problem when every mistake you ever made, or even wrongfully made accusations against you, can be found by anyone, indefinitely, by simply entering your name into a search engine?

Let's say there is a nude picture of you on the Internet, or something else that is embarrassing to you. It can be found by anyone by entering your name into Google. You can't do anything about it. It keeps you from getting that job you want, from now till the end of your life. Because of that one mistake you made years ago. How would you like that?

I'm also critical of these laws because they can be abused, but in general, I support the idea that some information should expire from the collective memory eventually.

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