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Ask HN: Why do we still use open floor plans?

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Re: Ask HN: Why do we still use open floor plans?

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Among many reasons, open floor plans are cheap. Offices require drywall and doors and (re-)construction permits. Cubicle walls are surprisingly expensive for how cheap they look. If you are looking to cut every cost you possible can, open floor plans certainly cut costs.

Open floor plans also photograph well

Re: Ask HN: Why do we still use open floor plans?

#12

Among many reasons, open floor plans are cheap. Offices require drywall and doors and (re-)construction permits. Cubicle walls are surprisingly expensive for how cheap they look. If you are looking to cut every cost you possible can, open floor plans certainly cut costs.

Open floor plans also photograph well

Is it worth sacrificing productivity to save a few bucks? How many dollars are you wasting? Even if an engineer is 1-5% less productive, compounded over a couple years you can more than pay for every cubicle.

Re: Ask HN: Why do we still use open floor plans?

#14

It's a trade-off. Closed offices make deep thinking easier; open floor plans make communication easier. Ideally, you want both, but how do you get it?

It makes internal communication and coordination a bit simpler. I feel however open plan offices can make externally directed communication harder.

At times internal coherence of e.g. a planning / architecture team is invaluable. And if such team is embedded in a larger space with related people around it - fantastic.

Most spaces however serve more than one goal. An externally focused organization will want loose coupling to the inside. The last you want to happen is all sales guy jumping on the most promising prospect.

Re: Ask HN: Why do we still use open floor plans?

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I work in an open plan office and sometimes I find it annoying. If I come in early, I get about an hour's peace. When people start coming in I hear conversations about kids then sport.. then when people who sit closer to me come in, I obviously have a quick morning chat with them. The whole thing can be very distracting. On the plus side, it's never lonely even when I am not talking to anyone. It's easy to see if peo…

"It's easier to go chat to people about work."

That's a plus for the person who wants to chat. It's a massive negative (far outweighing the positive for the person who gets to chat right now instead of in an hour's time) for the person who was several stacks deep in mental context in chasing down some Heisenbug, or really involved in bashing out just the right code with a head full of flowing understanding. Especially when it's a chat that lasts thirty seconds.

Re: Ask HN: Why do we still use open floor plans?

#16

It's a trade-off. Closed offices make deep thinking easier; open floor plans make communication easier. Ideally, you want both, but how do you get it?

True. Although I prefer cubicles any day but communication is hard - 've seen some have this way of treating as if u've invaded private space. I guess for open office - a good noise cancelling headphone which one of my colleague used to use is a need

Re: Ask HN: Why do we still use open floor plans?

#17

Among many reasons, open floor plans are cheap. Offices require drywall and doors and (re-)construction permits. Cubicle walls are surprisingly expensive for how cheap they look. If you are looking to cut every cost you possible can, open floor plans certainly cut costs.

If anyone was curious, $150 for a single straight cubicle wall, up to $1,500 for an "Office Space" style fully surrounded cubicle (inc. desk), and $5,100 for four cubicles (inc. desks and shared walls). These are all generic grey looking ones, nothing fancy like tempered glass.

Isn't that peanuts compared to other employee overhead costs?

Re: Ask HN: Why do we still use open floor plans?

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open floor plans also photograph well

Is it worth sacrificing productivity to save a few bucks? How many dollars are you wasting? Even if an engineer is 1-5% less productive, compounded over a couple years you can more than pay for every cubicle.

More like 25%, have you tried focusing in a noisy environment all day long?
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