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Ask HN: Should I be concerned about using company's computer for side projects?

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Re: Ask HN: Should I be concerned about using company's computer for side projects?

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post #5

they can make copies of your software whenever they want, it's their hardware. They can block specific software from running, etc. Their hardware, their policies. It's certainly not your rules. Buy a Notebook!

Hmm, does this extend to the Internet connection? Would using a work wifi for your side project mean they can claim to own it? What about public wifi? In order to keep your project safe, do you have to get a cellular connection and VPN into your home network?

Sniffing into any type of connection is feasable, expect if it's your own (Mobile Network). But they can still control your notebook how they want, take screenshots, etc. Because the software within a notebook only needs internet connection, the control, policies, etc it's centralized and pushed to the software in your desktop with any internet.

Re: Ask HN: Should I be concerned about using company's computer for side projects?

#13
It's the worst of both worlds.

If you don't do well and generate revenue/attention, nothing will happen.

If you do do well, then they might come after you with some lawyers, and at that point you have stuff to lose and are wondering why you spent all this time and effort and didn't spend 2k on a laptop of your own.

Re: Ask HN: Should I be concerned about using company's computer for side projects?

#14

It's the worst of both worlds. If you don't do well and generate revenue/attention, nothing will happen. If you do do well, then they might come after you with some lawyers, and at that point you have stuff to lose and are wondering why you spent all this time and effort and didn't spend 2k on a laptop of your own.

Also, if you're working on open source, an outside probability is they might assert some sort of ownership on the open source project that you contributed to, and either force you to rip your pull requests out or sue the project for damages.

Re: Ask HN: Should I be concerned about using company's computer for side projects?

#16
Using the company hardware isn't as important as the employment agreement you may have signed with them. Most full time software jobs will include a clause that everything you create while employed with that company belongs to the company unless explicitly stated otherwise in writing. And not limited to the code any idea or invention belongs to them.

Re: Ask HN: Should I be concerned about using company's computer for side projects?

#17
Pied Piper faced a serious threat that nearly ruined their business which stemmed from something like this, though you can't guarantee arbitration, and favorable treatment. Just use your own code/open source, and your own equipment in your own time, off site.

I haven't gotten an update on how their product is doing now though, but hopefully soon.

Re: Ask HN: Should I be concerned about using company's computer for side projects?

#19
post #6

Should you be concerned? Yes, absolutely. Just don't do it, period. And forget the whole idea, please. Back a few decades ago, when resources were 1000x as expensive as they are now, one might have entertained the thought of using one's work computer for personal and/or side business projects on the sly (and a great many people did, in fact). Resources at any significant scale, or desktop setups for visualization of…

Funny anecdote; Commander Keen was made this way. Carmack, Romero and Hall would pack up a bunch of the computers from Softdisk and work on the game over the weekend.

Long story short, they did have to make concessions when they were caught but it basically worked out for them (as history has shown).

To echo the previous sentiment; JUST DON'T DO IT.

Re: Ask HN: Should I be concerned about using company's computer for side projects?

#20

Have you not seen what happens on Silicon Valley :)

That show also featured files somehow getting deleted by the remote party as they were being uploaded via FTP, and an enormous porn network apparently having no backups. I wouldn't take things on that show as an accurate description of the technical/legal underpinnings of the world.
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