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Re: Ask HN: So I'm being let go

#11
> I've built banner ads for advertisers, booked online campaigns in various platforms Google DFP, Yahoo APT

I don't want to make you feel like shit, but the demand for your skillset (media oriented programming) is declining. The main focuses these days are on JavaScript replacing Flash and mobile development, but apart from that any company in the space is only making money if it is overworking and underpaying its employees (which is easy to do when they are young).

The money in digital media was cheap and easy for a while, but since maybe 2010 more and more people have been trying to get into the space, because the barrier to entry is so low. This has massively driven down rates. If you're a competent programmer outside of media, you can easily pull down 100k+. If you're in the media space, you're working way more hours and pulling down a little bit more than half of that, in my experience.

tl;dr: You need to decide whether you want to stay in the segment of the industry you are in. If you do, you will probably be in this position again in 2-3 years. If you don't, you need to convince someone like me in an interview that you aren't just like every other "WordPress programmer" out there.

Re: Ask HN: So I'm being let go

#12
There are still a ton of small businesses out there that do not even know how to setup their business on google so that they show up in a local search. Their websites are not optimized for mobile, so they get a penalty both from google and from users trying to use their website. These simple things are low hanging fruit you can easily do.

Re: Ask HN: So I'm being let go

#13
1] Build a capabilities slide deck.

Frame this exercise as what you would prepare if you were given the opportunity to do a 15 minute formal pitch of your capabilities to a room full of potential clients/employers.

Advertising Agencies and Consulting companies often have this as a section of their pitch decks. This is the "generic" part in which they are telling potential clients why they are generally capable and able to handle whatever will come up in the course of the project and they focus on the people and skills that they think make their agency stand-out while also assuring clients that they have all the "table stakes" covered.

The deck will help you with interviews and networking. How do I tell my story succinctly and engagingly?

2] Create an online portfolio website and other mini-sites. Build a portfolio site describing your accomplishments in various projects at your current newspaper job and include URL to relevant page. That portfolio site should also link to 2 or 3 mini-sites that demonstrate various sub-sets of your skills in action.

This is helpful because you can just send someone you are networking with a single URL that lets them explore who you are and what you can do.

3] Map out your skills. For each skill: label, short description, depth of experience, breadth of experience, assessment of your skill level, clear path toward improvement, enjoyment level and local market demand.

What this map will help you to do is decide where to focus your specialization budget, your time, money and intellectual energy. Ideally you would find a skill where you already have a nice breadth and depth of experience, market demand is at least moderately high and that skill has a clear path forward for improvement such as online courses, great books for moving toward expert status. Of the things you have listed, Javascript stands out as the skill that has market demand and a clear path toward expertise on top of your practical experience. It also has the virtue of being demonstrable.

Re: Ask HN: So I'm being let go

#14
post #3

Wait, so you're a dev, not a reporter? Where in the world are you? This is an important question.

Yup, I've held multiple titles here, I'm in California. I started as a Print Graphic Designer, then moved to I.T. Due to more layoffs I then became I.T./ Web Dev. I weathered the storm once again and had my job mutated into I.T. Assistant/ Web Dev/ Digital Campaign Coordinator.

Will they still need someone to do what you do occasionally?

Try to stay on working one or a few days per week or work for them on a contract basis.

It is easier to find a job if you are currently employed so hanging on 1 day per week or as a contractor you could list them as an employer or yourself as a contractor.

If you're interested and have the skills you could try to pick up some of your own clients including your current employer.

Sounds like you have basic skills but will need to spend some time getting to the next level.

If you enjoy web development you could elevate your skills by learning web application development front end with Angular or React back end with Rails or Laravel. If you have a few months till your let go you could make some progress learning new skills.

You won't be an expert or even employable over that time but the sooner you start learning the sooner you will be.

Check with companies in your area and see what skills they are hiring for.

If bringing in the same level of income isn't critical you could take an entry level developer position and start working your way up.

Play around with some of the popular languages and see what you like, what you are interested in.

Good luck.

Enjoy the Holidays, things will work out. You're still young, have a good foundation of skills to build on.

Re: Ask HN: So I'm being let go

#15
> Scared because I don't have a degree and at 30 I'm competing with younger, new grads.

The degree piece is almost ALWAYS an issue with flunky HR functionaries. Not so much for the Hiring Executive, he's interested in how you can help him move his agenda forward. Target your job search on reaching out directly to senior executives WHO you know how to help.

Incidentally, suggest reading Gitomer's Little Red Book- unconventional applications to approaching your job search> http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/75890.Little_Red_Book_of_...

Re: Ask HN: So I'm being let go

#16
The degree issue is very stick for some places and not stick for others, but overall I think it is less of an issue than in the last 15 years.

The best thing you did for yourself was learning the HTML, CSS, etc that you did. That is going to get your resume farther, faster, even without a degree. Having been on hiring committees for organizations looking for new copyrighters, etc, there is such a focus on web that it is always a plus to see, even if there are other developers doing the heavy lifting.

Re: Ask HN: So I'm being let go

#18
post #5

I wouldn't wait. It's a lot easier to get another job when you have one. When new HR person asks why say looking for better opportunities to expand my skills...don't bad mouth company or puke company drama. Plus if you have stuff in the pipeline you are that much closer to finding something.

It's not in me to bad mouth anyone anyway. I will definitely start looking A.S.A.P. I'm lucky because the layoff news isn't going to be disclosed for another couple of weeks so this gives me time to start the job hunt.

If you don't have a severance package, I'd immediately investigate unemployment benefits. If you have a health savings account, it can be used to pay for insurance premiums if you're collecting unemployment. Also, compare the COBRA your employer will offer to health insurance you can get on the healthcare.gov marketplace with subsidies (since you won't have income at that point).

Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/hiring for possible gigs.

Re: Ask HN: So I'm being let go

#19

> Scared because I don't have a degree and at 30 I'm competing with younger, new grads. The degree piece is almost ALWAYS an issue with flunky HR functionaries. Not so much for the Hiring Executive, he's interested in how you can help him move his agenda forward. Target your job search on reaching out directly to senior executives WHO you know how to help. Incidentally, suggest reading Gitomer's Little Red Book- unco…

Not true. Any number of positions that I am looking for management (i.e. the candidate has 5+ years of sw dev experience) specify a BS as a requirement. I read this as the filtering software filters out non-degreed professionals.

Re: Ask HN: So I'm being let go

#20
I'm occasionally involved in the hiring process where I work but I don't have a whole lot of advice to give you.

One bit of encouragement: newspapers (including local papers) and the people who produce them are still highly respected. You presumably have good communication skills and understand community. In an interview, if you can convey confidence and pride in your accomplishments there's a good chance you will make a good impression and that's half the battle.

Regardless of what direction you head off, good luck.

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