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It is impossible to prevent while only criminals/terrorists have the weapons. An armed citizenry is not so easily victimized.
The only true way to prevent these acts is to eliminate ideological conflicts altogether. Usually, this is done by letting the state pick a winning ideology and suppress those who don't adhere to it. This tends to ensure a level of homogeneity that makes violence obsolete. A more moderate solution is to allow conflicting ideologies to exist as long as they don't reach extremes. This is usually done through mass surve…
> Namely, law abiding citizens should be able to conceal-carry weapons. Although it couldn't stop all kinds of terrorist attacks, it could very well put a stop to most mass shootings. Here we go again... When I read this, in my head, this analogy comes to mind: "We could stop bombings by allowing all citizens to carry concealed bombs [to use in self-defense]." Now obviously that is an absurd analogy, but it mirrors a…
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A recent tweet by Newt Gingrich echoes precisely that: https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/665312487147896832 I understand that this is not the popular opinion around here, but I genuinely can't think of an alternative.
I call bullshit on that. Tell me one theater/school/whatever attack in the States that has been foiled by armed citizens.
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A recent tweet by Newt Gingrich echoes precisely that: https://twitter.com/newtgingrich/status/665312487147896832 I understand that this is not the popular opinion around here, but I genuinely can't think of an alternative.
I call bullshit on that. Tell me one theater/school/whatever attack in the States that has been foiled by armed citizens.
It is impossible to prevent while only criminals/terrorists have the weapons. An armed citizenry is not so easily victimized.
Why are you limp wristed millennials downvoting this? If a mere 1% of the crowd were allowed to carry concealed, even with something wimpy like a Ruger SR22 or S&W M&P 22 Compact, the body count here would be less than 10.
> According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 2013, firearms (excluding BB and pellet guns) were used in 84,258 nonfatal injuries (26.65 per 100,000 U.S. citizens) [2] and 11,208 deaths by homicide (3.5 per 100,000),[3] 21,175 by suicide with a firearm,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental discharge of a firearm,[4] and 281 deaths due to firearms-use with "undetermined intent"[5] for a total of 33,169 deaths related to firearms (excluding firearm deaths due to legal intervention).
So, 11,713 homicides and accidents in the US, not counting suicide. This week alone, gun will likely kill more Americans than the attack on Paris today.
It is impossible to prevent while only criminals/terrorists have the weapons. An armed citizenry is not so easily victimized.
I feel that these events are connected a la V for Vendetta:
[0] In Afghanistan, tie between 9/11 and the war often gets lost
[1] U.S. Weaponry Is Turning Syria Into Proxy War With Russia
[2] Drone Strike in Yemen Hits Wedding Convoy, Killing 11
[3] EU and France deny any change in Syria policy
[4] Collateral Murder (Wikileaks - Iraq)
[5] Italy Arrests ISIS Terrorist Disguised As Refugee
[6] Syria: A human tragedy
[7] Cheney Insists Iraq War Was Worth It Because Of WMD
[8] Who are Isis? A terror group too extreme even for al-Qaida
[9] Charlie Hebdo Shooting
These are random links, I just collected from DDG mind you, nothing well-thought. I could start from the crusades I guess and everything would be equally aligned in my mind.
On a personal note feel terrorized. I was planning a trip to Paris this year. Now, I don't know. The only thing that remains, unfortunately, is fear. We can't see straight anymore.
Obama calls Paris attacks 'outrageous'. Is he willing to stop fueling the war in Syria?
“An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind.” - Ghandi
“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” - Asimov
[0] http://articles.latimes.com/2011/sep/10/world/la-fg-afghanis...
[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/world/middleeast/syria-rus...
[2] http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/13/world/middleeast/drone-str...
[3] http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/16/us-mideast-crisis-...
[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
[5] http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/09/italy-arrests-isis-terrori...
[6] http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidesyria/2014/03/syri...
[7] http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/10/29/2853061/cheney-...
[8] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/11/isis-too-extrem...
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Why are you limp wristed millennials downvoting this? If a mere 1% of the crowd were allowed to carry concealed, even with something wimpy like a Ruger SR22 or S&W M&P 22 Compact, the body count here would be less than 10.
From Wikipedia: > According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 2013, firearms (excluding BB and pellet guns) were used in 84,258 nonfatal injuries (26.65 per 100,000 U.S. citizens) [2] and 11,208 deaths by homicide (3.5 per 100,000),[3] 21,175 by suicide with a firearm,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental discharge of a firearm,[4] and 281 deaths due to firearms-use with "undetermined intent"[5] for a…
eg.,:
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-hom...
Brazil, Italy etc. - significantly lower percentage of firearms between citizens (say compared to USA), yet there are percentually more homicides performed with firearm.
It is impossible to prevent while only criminals/terrorists have the weapons. An armed citizenry is not so easily victimized.
Why are you limp wristed millennials downvoting this? If a mere 1% of the crowd were allowed to carry concealed, even with something wimpy like a Ruger SR22 or S&W M&P 22 Compact, the body count here would be less than 10.
While there may be more people available to stop gunmen because of the access to guns, increased access to firearms increases the number of firearm related accidents. This is really something that comes with the territory. No matter how much gun safety is taught, there's always going to be a distribution of people who fall outside of safe usage of guns. At that point, you have to consider whether, as a nation, does the number of casualties based on this incident outweigh the potential number of casualties based on firearm related incidents caused by increased proliferation of guns?
It is impossible to prevent while only criminals/terrorists have the weapons. An armed citizenry is not so easily victimized.
Why are you limp wristed millennials downvoting this? If a mere 1% of the crowd were allowed to carry concealed, even with something wimpy like a Ruger SR22 or S&W M&P 22 Compact, the body count here would be less than 10.