I'm in Germany, and I'm pretty OK with our police. Most officers I've met were friendly, it just happens to be their job to have to do unpopular things at times.
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#12Police in Germany are good as well in that respect. Mostly polite and to the point. Never needlessly aggressive.
I do feel uneasy about the police as a system though and what it's about to become. Home security (or whatever euphemistic term that's called nowadays), politicians and police representatives arguing for ever more surveillance and authoritarian measures. That's what's undermining police work in almost every Western country no matter how good and trustworthy the police in those countries actually might be.
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#13I am white though; I suspect if I was Native I might have different opinions on the police.
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#14I am white though; I suspect if I was Native I might have different opinions on the police.
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#16Side point but I've noticed the fire brigade attend local fetes and periodically setting up outside shopping centers with their truck to let people look about the trucks/gear and chat (mainly parents/kids). You never see this with cops. Maybe just my area. I feel it would be valuable for cops to introduce themselves to the community like this on a regular basis. Both for citizens to say hi in non-negative situations. Also so the police engage more with 'good society' while on duty and perhaps lose some of that arrogance and expecting the worst behavior.
Ive also lived in London and Norway and felt relaxed around cops there. They typically dont carry guns on them which I liked. In Norway they have firearms but leave them in the trunk of the car. I feel this is a really good compromise.
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#17Federal police: They are generally considered to be highly educated individuals so they have a certain amount of respect among civilians, most people feel comfortable around them and will trust them in case of an emergency.
State police: They are kind of iffy, particularly in my state you generally don't get to see ordinary state officers patrolling the city, but the state police has a famed SWAT team that is staked out at the state border 24/7 and will sometimes be seen patrolling around the city at night. Even though it has been a couple of years, they still have this terrible reputation that where ever they go something (not nice) is probably going to go down. A few years back they were always early whenever large shootout broke out, so now people are wary of them.
Municipal police: They are generally viewed as lazy uneducated people, and have a certain fame of being rude, corrupt (although, they aren't particularly corrupt), and unhelpful which is certainly warranted. Most people don't feel comfortable calling them.
Transit police: They are known for preying on the most vulnerable in an attempt to make some quick bucks, some are quite cheeky, most are rather subtle.
Ministerial police: They have a reputation of rampant corruption, and depending on where you lie on the socio-economic ladder, you are either not scared at all of them or you are absolutely terrified about having to deal with them.
YMMV.
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#18I'm from France (and white, sadly it matters) so I never encounter police once in my life (literally), and I'm actually "scared" of them, I don't trust them. If a police officer stops me, I would actually be very defensive, a police officer or a gangster stop me I would have the same kind of state of mind, nothing good can come out of it, the best outcome is nothing happens. I was also in Cameroon for a month (still…
Well good to see as much as things change somethings stay the same.
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#19I can't stand being around them. They are arrogant, aggressive and petty. They frequently take liberties with the law to suit themselves. The NYPD has recently taken to posting dehumanizing pictures of the homeless on Twitter to shame the mayor.
"We know you didn't do it but we are arresting you anyway" - Police officer to me
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#20I was fined in my early twenties, because I just turned around my car where it was possible - it didn't happened on the street and police officer told me that I have violated the law. I have argued for long minutes only to give up and pay the fine.
When I checked the laws regarding this, there was no reason to fine me, but it was too late. The paragraph on my ticket was also completely bogus and the fine was already paid.
Not so many years back I was traversing the pedestrian crossing on completely calm Sunday (no car in sight). Of course there was red on the semaphore, but that would only mean spending senseless minute(s) to cross two and half meters. Officers were nearby, just waiting to fine me. What works here - you can always tell them that there's nothing to talk about, hand them your ID card and tell them that you'll be glad to visit their office once they're down with all the paperwork. Since the paperwork that needs to be done is quite obnoxious, whole thing is usually silently discarded (win).
To conclude - I don't expect anything from police. Most normal people around are reasonable and they will do whatever is needed to stop or alleviate the things that endanger someone.
Being fined because bandage from your compulsory first aid kit in the car expired week ago is just completely senseless. Why would a thinking human trust and feel safe around people who enforce such thing(s)?
This is Czech Republic, heart of Europe.