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Ask HN: Would anyone find this system fair?

#1
I work for a large non-tech company, it operates a tier based salary system.

Everyone on the same level gets the same base pay and those who perform well, get a bump and bonus now and then.

On my team there are a few developers. I am the only senior. The others have little to no experience.

We are paid the same.

I believe they are over paid for where we live.

I do all of the project planning, code reviews, bug fixes, requests etc. I don't see how the other devs could possibly steer the ship. There is little to no confidence in the others carrying on successfully if I suddenly stopped.

I'm beginning to tire of this cycle as I am doing all the hard work and they are getting an easy ticket.

No one else in the company has this know how, so it is up to me to mentor and guide these developers. I do my best but I feel like I am not being treated fairly, compensation wise.

I brought it up with my manager and was told I would be rewarded, it was a miniscule improvement. I got enough to would cover a few extra coffees.

I don't want to quit as my last job ended quite abrubtly and I want to fatten up this portion of by resume.

Does this system seem fair to anyone else? Anyone in a similiar position?

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#4
I'd argue for the introduction of a new tier, with the responsibilities that you're taking on that aren't reasonable for the others to do. And if they don't agree, maybe stop doing those extra things.

Your coworkers aren't "overpaid", you're underpaid.

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#5
A tier based system doesn't seem inherently unfair to me. But putting a senior dev and a junior dev on the same tier seems pretty unfair.

Are you paid well relative to what you could make if you did jump ship? You mention that your coworkers are over-paid, but not specifically that you are underpaid.

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#6
You should be bumped up a few steps (tiers), or assigned a managerial role, as you are doing non-temporary extra work out-of-class. I would schedule a meeting with both your boss and your bosses boss to explain why you need to be promoted.

> The others have little to no experience.

> I do all of the project planning, code reviews, bug fixes, requests etc.

The other devs should also be assigned some of the simpler of these tasks to grow their skills so that eventually they too can get step bumps.

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#7
From your description it doesn’t sound fair.

In my experience, non-technical managers underestimate the importance of Senior devs / leaders / mentors. They might have the assumption that those folks are as replaceable as Jr. devs, when that is not accurate. The switching cost for a Sr. contributor is far higher.

It’s a tough job market and as a recruiter I can tell you that a series of short stints isn’t a good look. But, you will probably find more appreciation and respect with a tech company or a tech manager / owner who understands the importance of your contributions.

Good luck.

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#10
You asked a very philosophical question.

To start with, there are different definitions of fairness. A small example: everybody gets equal, everybody gets what they deserve, everybody gets what they need. An so on.

It's very hard to answer this as my definition of "fair" is probably different to yours. However, we live in a free world. The company's rules are clear and nobody is forced to work there. Seems fair in some sense to me.

I personally wouldn't be happy with this arrangement as I would probably seek a little bit more appreciation of my experience and position.

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