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Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#1
I put an extraordinary amount of work effort in the company for 3 years. I worked under the same manager during this period. Last year when performance review meeting happened just like every other year, I was told that you are the best engineer in the whole organization.

For these years, I have not got a single dollar raise or promotion. My salary has been the same from the day I joined in 2019.

Last year, performance review meeting was different. When mass layoffs were happening, manager brought another engineer on the team. I came to know that this engineer had known him in the past, could be friends. Even though, there was no need for another engineer on the team. My manager told me to train this engineer with same skill-set like you. I am a nice person so I brought this engineer up to speed. From the time this engineer has learnt everything that I have known, my manager has stopped talking to me. My 1:1 meetings has not happened for last few months. I am getting cold shoulder treatment from everyone else on team. This engineer who I taught has been assigned lead role and giving me directions for last few months. The whole situation has become toxic for me.

How to handle this situation best?

This is top 5 tech companies in Canada. If this is the kind of culture promoted here, how are other companies doing?

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#2
Listen, there’s an unfortunate lesson to be learned here.

Job hoppers earn a lot more, over time. It sounds like it’s time to go. Perhaps there’s another department you could move to, as well? Otherwise, time to spend a weekend or two on Leetcode and then wrangle up some interviews.

I suspect something else is going on here, and without further details, I have to assume that leaving to a higher-paying job would be best for you.

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#3
Stay there, do nothing, take the paycheck and work on yourself: - brush up on your skills - start / contribute to a few projects, create a portfolio (I don't know what's your work experience) - start applying for jobs You owe nothing to that company, at the end of the day you're just one name in someone's Excel file, the whole "family at work" trend is something awful that should not have been born, so you better get out of that.

Good luck!

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#6

Stay there, do nothing, take the paycheck and work on yourself: - brush up on your skills - start / contribute to a few projects, create a portfolio (I don't know what's your work experience) - start applying for jobs You owe nothing to that company, at the end of the day you're just one name in someone's Excel file, the whole "family at work" trend is something awful that should not have been born, so you better get…

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Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#7
It's important to get some facts first and not work off of your assumptions. No matter how strongly you sense that you're "getting the cold shoulder from everyone else", it could just be intesified by your emotions.

Schedule a 1:1 with you manager. Don't reveal the agenda, but be polite and just say you want to discuss some things.

During the meeting get the answers to your questions. This time you can be direct (but still polite). If your manager is beating around the bush / sugar coating, your initial senses were probably right.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#8
The lesson here is that you have to look out for yourself. After you didn't get a raise (despite being told you're the best) in your first performance review, you should have done two things.

1. Immediately expressed disappointment and asked for an explanation of why you didn't receive a raise despite the feedback. They're probably not going to give you a raise at that point, but it makes clear that you're unhappy and comp adjustments are important to you. That way when they're making comp decisions at the next cycle, they can intuit that there will be consequences if they don't give you a raise.

2. ~6 months before the next comp adjustment cycle, remind your manager that you were disappointed not to have a raise last time, you've continued to outperform your peers, and it's extremely important to you to receive a significant raise in the upcoming cycle to feel valued by the company. Repeat this speech once review time starts.

After not getting a raise for two cycles (whether you took the above two steps or not), you get a new job. Why are you sticking around at a place that doesn't treat you well when you're a high-performing employee with an in-demand skillset? They're treating you poorly because you allow them to treat you poorly while still getting the work they need from you. You have to advocate for yourself in your career (and the rest of your life). You're asking how to handle this situation best, but it's honestly obvious - you know what you want, so go ask for it, and if you don't get it, go somewhere else where you can get it. You don't need advice on what to do, you just need to go stick up for yourself.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#9
I’m blown away by some of the other comments here. There’s no value in having a victim mentality.

Have you openly spoken to your manager about your concerns? How it doesn’t feel fair? How you feel you’re being treated? There’s a chance they have no idea. Maybe they’re not that experienced and are just working things out themselves. Or if they seem like the wrong person, is there someone above them you can voice your concerns about?

Last time I had an employer I had feelings of being treated unfairly and voiced it and they gave me a big raise and a bonus, and they expressed how they respected me that much more for voicing it. (I did also come to them with a job offer from another company that had a larger dollar amount associated to it.). N=1 here and no guarantees of course, but it’s very worth attempting to communicate.

Being on the other end as a business owner myself now, I realize how easy it is to think everything that happens at the company and how it operates is deliberate and intentional. That is very often not the case. The invisible hand reaches over and forms companies just as it does the economy, eg one person makes a decision and introduced a structure or process 5 years ago and it just hasn’t been revisited despite the fact it should have.

If they don’t seem interested after some good attempts at being transparent and honest, you’re possibly a place that doesn’t value their employees, and it’s worth looking elsewhere to find a place that better aligns with your values.

Re: Ask HN: Looking for advice on my situation at work?

#10
I don't want to assume it's you at all. Vitamin B is a real thing and there are shitty managers out there but was there anything else going on?

Are you overly sexist? Bitchy? Difficult?

If not use your time to find something better! You probably can't win this game.

One thing you could try: ask everyone on your team in private what you could do to be better.

Perhaps this might shine up something.

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