Ask HN: What are some scams that are yet to go bust?
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#2Take that in for a moment and think about the prices of things like NFTs today.
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#3Invisible artwork, I don't get it. As I can't understand NFTs in general. Scam? I don't know. Money laundering? Yes.
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#4The US dollar backed by nothing still keeps going, thanks to Petrodollar Recycling. On top of this is the 0% effective interest rate for the Banking class, with no effective reserve requirements, and socialized risk.
The Bitcoin boom fascinates me.
The Stock Market, that most famous graph of rich people's feelings, has been overrun with front-running profiteers, yet pretends to be trustworthy.
How the working class haven't strung up the rich yet escapes me.
Civilization takes a huge amount of labor to keep going, yet we have yahoos cheering on the end of it all because G*d will sort it all out, and they'll be in Heaven... yeah, right.
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#5This morning on the newspaper there was the story of a local artist who has auctioned his latest artwork for the equivalent of $30K. The great work of art is a magnificent invisible statue. Not a word in the article about how strange a transaction where a signed piece of paper representing nothing tangible is sold for a relevant amount of money. Perfectly normal. Invisible artwork, I don't get it. As I can't understa…
In London Ontario a few decades ago, there was a furor over a million+ dollar painting purchased by the museum. The artist wasn't and still isn't famous. It was entirely blue with a single red stripe down the center. But at least it was a real thing.
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#7This morning on the newspaper there was the story of a local artist who has auctioned his latest artwork for the equivalent of $30K. The great work of art is a magnificent invisible statue. Not a word in the article about how strange a transaction where a signed piece of paper representing nothing tangible is sold for a relevant amount of money. Perfectly normal. Invisible artwork, I don't get it. As I can't understa…
Time will tell. If he manages to auction it off at a profit some time in the future, something is definitely up. In London Ontario a few decades ago, there was a furor over a million+ dollar painting purchased by the museum. The artist wasn't and still isn't famous. It was entirely blue with a single red stripe down the center. But at least it was a real thing.
Voice of Fire cost less than $2M and is now worth over $40M. The furor was also bs.
VoF/B.N. were not scams.
https://www.wikiart.org/en/barnett-newman
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Time will tell. If he manages to auction it off at a profit some time in the future, something is definitely up. In London Ontario a few decades ago, there was a furor over a million+ dollar painting purchased by the museum. The artist wasn't and still isn't famous. It was entirely blue with a single red stripe down the center. But at least it was a real thing.
Barnett Newman was huge in the abstract movement. Like, founding member, broke new ground, legit The Man. “Wasn’t and still isn’t famous” is bs. Voice of Fire cost less than $2M and is now worth over $40M. The furor was also bs. VoF/B.N. were not scams. https://www.wikiart.org/en/barnett-newman https://www.moma.org/artists/4285 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Fire
Even if no painting is involved, take Fontana's "Tagli" (cuts), at least you have something in your hands.
I mean, as a museum curator, after investing some money, I have something to attract guests and sell tickets. Imagine going to an exhibition to admire an invisible artwork, that requires a whole new level of faith.
I rest convinced that buying nothing, even if this nothing is backed by a certificate of authenticity, is a stupid thing to do. But since auction houses are everything but stupid I feel that's something else going on, and no, it's not abstract art.
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#10I would say Tesla's "FSD". For years they have promised it and cashed in the money, making it even non-transferable. FSD is still years away from working.
Part of the problem with FSD is that it is difficult to make and test incremental improvements on a larger scale. At some point you need to send a big fleet of cars and let an "average" driver drive it without any special safety measures
Another part of the problem is public perception of safety, people are willing to accept fatalities due to human mistakes but even minor accidents caused by FSD are highly publicized