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Ask HN: Is there a DNA/genealogy site you trust?

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Re: Ask HN: Is there a DNA/genealogy site you trust?

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I'm not sure. Supposedly 23andMe will delete your data completely upon your request. So you could sign up, print your reports, then request deletion.

Would they have shared your non-anonimized data with anyone by the time you request a delete? Perhaps through some unspecified 3rd party whose privacy policy you don't know?

Re: Ask HN: Is there a DNA/genealogy site you trust?

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I'm not sure. Supposedly 23andMe will delete your data completely upon your request. So you could sign up, print your reports, then request deletion.

Would they have shared your non-anonimized data with anyone by the time you request a delete? Perhaps through some unspecified 3rd party whose privacy policy you don't know?

This was a few years ago, so it could have changed. Supposedly they only shared 'anonymized' data for research purposes. You could opt-in (or maybe out) of genealogy connections. Of course, with enough attributes and cross references even anonymized data is seeming less and less safe.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a DNA/genealogy site you trust?

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No, stay away. Even if a company is trustworthy today, it doesn't mean that it won't update its Terms of Service tomorrow/be bought.

Really the only answer this thread needs. Companies can be bought and sold and the information they have can change hands and change retention and privacy policies. There's no trustable verification method for knowing, for absolute certain, that none of your data has been retained at your request. There simply is no reasonable way to trust these services.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a DNA/genealogy site you trust?

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My approach was to buy a temporary domain with a cash prepaid gift card, register it with a fake name from a VPN, set up email (also via VPN), do the DNA thing (via VPN) with a fake name and an email address at the new domain, download my data (VPN), then delete the account.

The only thing linking it to my existing identity is the actual DNA data itself, which is probably insufficient for insurance companies or data brokers to relate it to my existing records for discrimination purposes.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a DNA/genealogy site you trust?

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My approach was to buy a temporary domain with a cash prepaid gift card, register it with a fake name from a VPN, set up email (also via VPN), do the DNA thing (via VPN) with a fake name and an email address at the new domain, download my data (VPN), then delete the account. The only thing linking it to my existing identity is the actual DNA data itself, which is probably insufficient for insurance companies or data…

But if other members of your family submit their DNA with their real identities, then possibly you can then be identified like how they caught the Golden State Killer.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a DNA/genealogy site you trust?

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My approach was to buy a temporary domain with a cash prepaid gift card, register it with a fake name from a VPN, set up email (also via VPN), do the DNA thing (via VPN) with a fake name and an email address at the new domain, download my data (VPN), then delete the account. The only thing linking it to my existing identity is the actual DNA data itself, which is probably insufficient for insurance companies or data…

But if other members of your family submit their DNA with their real identities, then possibly you can then be identified like how they caught the Golden State Killer.

You’re right. I should probably make a point not to go on a multidecade killing spree, given the circumstances.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a DNA/genealogy site you trust?

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My approach was to buy a temporary domain with a cash prepaid gift card, register it with a fake name from a VPN, set up email (also via VPN), do the DNA thing (via VPN) with a fake name and an email address at the new domain, download my data (VPN), then delete the account. The only thing linking it to my existing identity is the actual DNA data itself, which is probably insufficient for insurance companies or data…

But if other members of your family submit their DNA with their real identities, then possibly you can then be identified like how they caught the Golden State Killer.

It's true. This can only work for a little while, then all your hard work is gone forever. Your identity is hard-coded.

Anonymous is definitely Debby's dad, and Bills cousin. Other datasets indicate that Debby's dad and Bills cousin's name is John Johnson. Therefore, Anonymous is John Johnson.

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