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To me it seems like using a framework would take away from that control.
What does hacker news think about this issue?
I mean, think about it... you already don't really have "complete control." You (presumably) didn't code your own OS from scratch in machine language... so why not? Did you code your own web-server from scratch? Your own PHP runtime? IP stack? No?
Seriously, nobody does that stuff from scratch because it takes too much time and they'd rather focus on the value they're actually trying to create, as opposed to re-creating the wheel. That said, having the ability to go down to the lowest levels of the stack does have value... when you actually need to change something to achieve your goals. Take the guys who originally built Beowulf clusters... they actually did go in and hack on network drivers and IP stacks and what-not, because they had a unique need (low latency) that required it.
Anyway, I'd say apply this by analogy to what you're doing. Focus on adding value and avoid re-inventing the wheel, unless it's just a hobby project for learning / experimentation... but reserve the right to go as low level as you need, if and when you have an actual need.
Depends... what's more important to you, having control of every little detail of how underlying plumbing works, or increased productivity and the opportunity to spend your (finite) time on things that add value? I mean, think about it... you already don't really have "complete control." You (presumably) didn't code your own OS from scratch in machine language... so why not? Did you code your own web-server from scra…
I suppose though, now that its been made, I do have a 'framework' to work with.
Depends... what's more important to you, having control of every little detail of how underlying plumbing works, or increased productivity and the opportunity to spend your (finite) time on things that add value? I mean, think about it... you already don't really have "complete control." You (presumably) didn't code your own OS from scratch in machine language... so why not? Did you code your own web-server from scra…
the site is my baby, I want to make a job out of it.(building it from scratch made my skills increase 10 fold). I suppose though, now that its been made, I do have a 'framework' to work with.
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the site is my baby, I want to make a job out of it.(building it from scratch made my skills increase 10 fold). I suppose though, now that its been made, I do have a 'framework' to work with.
Do you want to make a job out of your site, or building a framework for your site? These are two different things, and spending time one one tends to prevent you from spending time on the other.
That is true, probably build out the site and extend/fix the framework as necessary.
Isn't it the same thing though?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you want to make a job out of your site, or building a framework for your site? These are two different things, and spending time one one tends to prevent you from spending time on the other.
by job i mean money maker... That is true, probably build out the site and extend/fix the framework as necessary. Isn't it the same thing though?
And if that framework is open source, and somebody else isn't extending or fixing it for you, you can do it yourself. You can still hack on it, but you don't have to build it from the ground up.
I respect building something from scratch so you can learn from it (I once wrote my own OS), but that tends to be helpful only once. After you've learned from the experience, you tend to be better at judging what to tackle yourself, and what you can leave to other people.
If you had learned the right framework, you would be able to develop your next project much quicker, and you'd be a more attractive candidate to companies who use that framework. I guessing the attitude of hn is use the right tool for the job depending on your requirements.
> you'd be a more attractive candidate to companies
> who use that framework
Depends... what's more important to you, having control of every little detail of how underlying plumbing works, or increased productivity and the opportunity to spend your (finite) time on things that add value? I mean, think about it... you already don't really have "complete control." You (presumably) didn't code your own OS from scratch in machine language... so why not? Did you code your own web-server from scra…
the site is my baby, I want to make a job out of it.(building it from scratch made my skills increase 10 fold). I suppose though, now that its been made, I do have a 'framework' to work with.
Learn a framework, you'll be happy you did.