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Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#1
Hey everyone,

I know this may come off as kind of an odd question but I am truly very confused and stressed and would love to hear your opinions. I am deciding between an internship with Palantir or Facebook and cannot bring myself to decide. I was hoping to get some insight from those of you who are more hooked into the startup scene in the Valley to shed some light and your opinions on these two companies. I am an upperclassman CS major so really what I am looking for in the internship is a chance to learn new technologies and skills and to network with people in the startup industry.

Right now I feel like I am more passionate about the work that Facebook is doing but I feel that I would learn more and gain a bigger network at Palantir, given that is has only 300 employees vs. Facebook's 2000. My dream is to one day create my own startup (possibly right out of college), so I feel like this is an important aspect to consider.

Should I even be worrying about these factors at this stage? Am I just overthinking this decision? I really appreciate any insight that you guys can give me on this.

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#4
Jesus you shouldn't even have to ask this question. Facebook all the way. It not only carries more weight, but you're more likely to work with new cutting edge tech. Remember Palantir is mainly a Java shop in the finance and gov sectors, while Facebook is the "next big thing", just like Google was.

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#5
Between your current two, I would say Facebook because it sounds like you'll enjoy yourself more there.

That said, you also say: "My dream is to one day create my own startup (possibly right out of college)"

In that case, I would recommend a funded startup with something on the order of 5 employees. I've never worked at a larger company so I can't bash them, but I could say my experience at a small company still in "startup mode" helped me tremendously with my own startup.

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#7
My dream is to one day create my own startup (possibly right out of college)

Be careful with who you say this to. Although this probably won't be a problem with an internship, an employer may be reluctant to consider someone who demonstrates a lack of commitment.

I was told of a student who said to one of his interviewers at Electronic Arts that he "wanted to be the next Jenova Chen." (Jenova Chen left EA to found thatgamecompany.) Needless to say, the interviewer was not amused.

Re: Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#8
I'm going to disagree with the people on this thread and vote for Plantir.

It is cool to say that Facebook is doing 'world-changing' and 'revolutionary' things -- while I believe such is true on some levels and that we can't ignore what it is -- but a company like Plantir has a much better opportunity to do things that are simply mind-boggling.

Finance and the Government are not popular things, especially amongst the hacker crowds, but the US Government is capable of doing incredible things. The power wielded by the State is huge, and directly affects hundreds of millions of people a day. Facebook may have become a staple in some peoples lives but they [as a company] are not responsible for keeping citizens safe, regulating commerce, building infrastructure, waging war or brokering peace.

Facebook is a company that finds better ways to serve up advertising. That's not all they do, but that's how they make money.

Plantir is in a unique position to change an increasingly inefficient/ineffective system. US politics suck right now. We can all agree on that. But a company like Plantir operates on a different level than the fork-tongued politicians.

You say: network with people in the startup industry and create my own startup which tells me (and I might be wrong, please correct if so) that you enjoy the idea of disrupting the status quo. What better place to do this than Big Government and Big Business/Finance? This might seem backwards but as these institutions crumble at their seams there is no better place to be.

Re: Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#9
I'm in a similar situation that you are in. The pros and cons I currently see.

Both:

Have a great company culture. Have awesome smart, employees and have interesting problems to work on.

Facebook: Is a rather large company now so you won't learn as much. It does have extremely interesting problems though and does have smart people so you will learn a lot. However, facebook is most likely overvalued, so if you join facebook, it is highly unlikely you will get rich off of the stock.

Palantir: Has one of the most excellent engineering teams I have ever met. They have the best team I have seen in terms of algorithmic problem solving ability. They have an awesome company culture and great perks. Whereas facebook is the current hot place to work, I could see Palantir being the next hot place to work.

The one major downside of Palantir is that they work on enterprise software and thus, the product isn't as cool to the general consumer. Most of the people on this thread have no real idea what Palantir does and just assume that since they work for the government, their work isn't interesting. You'll have to deal with this because truthfully, their work isn't well understood and isn't as sexy as facebook.

Re: Ask HN: Palantir or Facebook?

#10
Very surprised nobody has mentioned this: A Facebook internship, if converted into a Facebook job, can be extremely valuable if/when they IPO.

Of course, money isn't everything. Palantir has some extremely smart people (two of my friends work there, and I have a ton of respect for them), and seems to move at a pretty quick pace. Going there could be very interesting from both an experience and an ops perspective.

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